David Wilcock

[Monica]

Ra: I am Ra. This is partially correct. To be corrected is the concept of the creation of green-ray density bodily complexes. This creation will be gradual and will take place beginning with your third-density type of physical vehicle and, through the means of bisexual reproduction, become by evolutionary processes, the fourth-density body complexes.

Questioner: Then are these entities of whom we have spoken, the third density harvestable who have been transferred, the ones who then will, by bisexual reproduction, create the fourth-density complexes that are necessary?

Ra: I am Ra. The influxes of true color green energy complexes will more and more create the conditions in which the atomic structure of cells of bodily complexes is that of the density of love. The mind/body/spirit complexes inhabiting these physical vehicles will be, and to some extent, are, those of whom you spoke and, as harvest is completed, the harvested entities of this planetary influence.

When I read this, I read that the preparation takes time, it requires specific bodies and minds to be able to make the shift into 4d. But this does not mean that the shift itself won't be instantaneous. I'm not a scholar of the Ra material like you, I think I know Wilcocks work better than the Ra material. So we're going to have to help each other a bit.

Wilcock makes a clear point that the Ra material never suggests a gradual shift from 3 to 4d. All points where it seems this way are slightly ambiguous. Meaning that if you come from one understanding you'll read one thing if you come from another understanding you will read another thing. This is the ambiguity I explained earlier. Quite likely no one truly understands precisely what Ra meant in the places here he had difficulty in translating into our words.

I agree that much of the Law of One is subject to interpretation. However, imho, this is not one of them:

Questioner: Then what will be the time of transition on this planet from third to fourth-density?

Ra: I am Ra. This is difficult to estimate due to the uncharacteristic anomalies of this transition. There are at this space/time nexus beings incarnate which have begun fourth-density work. However, the third-density climate of planetary consciousness is retarding the process.

At this particular nexus the possibility/probability vortices indicate somewhere between 100 and 700 of your years as transition period. This cannot be accurate due to the volatility of your peoples at this space/time.

This is about as clear as anyone could get. While the length of the transition is subject to 'our volatility' there doesn't seem to be any question as to whether there will be a transition at all. The only question is how long will the transition be? 100 years? 400 years?

2 seconds?

I just don't see Ra being that far off, or of the possibility/probability vortices changing that much...changing from a range measured in hundreds of years, to a range measured in seconds, which is what an 'instantaneous' shift would entail.

Unless, of course, our planet polarized towards harmony in a single moment of inspiration!

I still have hope, but, as Ra said, it's not probable...though ever possible.

But to state such a remote possibility as a factual reality is, imo, unfounded.

Is it in the realm of possibility? Yes. Is it in the realm of probability? No.

Why, then, speak of it as though it were a done deal, a given, a future set in stone?

Not even Ra has ever, ever stated with certainty the time or the method anything will happen in our future.

At any rate, you say, "Wilcock makes a clear point that the Ra material never suggests a gradual shift from 3 to 4d" is false. DW does acknowledge this one single reference:

from http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?op...&Itemid=30

HOW FAST WILL WE TRANSITION INTO FOURTH DENSITY?

Questioner: Then what will be the time of transition on this planet from third to fourth-density?

Ra: I am Ra. This is difficult to estimate due to the uncharacteristic anomalies of this transition. There are at this space/time nexus beings incarnate which have begun fourth-density work. However, the third-density climate of planetary consciousness is retarding the process.

At this particular nexus the possibility/probability vortices indicate somewhere between 100 and 700 of your years as transition period. This cannot be accurate due to the volatility of your peoples at this space/time.


DW: Here is the one and ONLY 'gradualist' quote in the entire Law of One series. You just read the ONE quote that has created the WHOLE PROBLEM everyone's arguing about. Here we're taking it in its FULL context, NOT as a separate and isolated quote to be judged alone.

Firstly, DW is mistaken that it's the ONLY 'gradualist' quote, as you can see from the quote at the top of this post (repeated here for convenience and emphasis):

Questioner: I will make this statement and have you correct me. What we have is, as our planet is spiraled by the spiraling action of the entire major galaxy and our planetary system spirals into the new position, the fourth density vibrations becoming more and more pronounced. These atomic core vibrations begin to create, more and more completely, the fourth density sphere and the fourth-density bodily complexes for inhabitation of that sphere. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is partially correct. To be corrected is the concept of the creation of green-ray density bodily complexes. This creation will be gradual and will take place beginning with your third-density type of physical vehicle and, through the means of bisexual reproduction, become by evolutionary processes, the fourth-density body complexes.


Notice that Ra made the correction regarding the transition of US to 4D. Our transition, ie. the transition of the souls as opposed to the transition of the planet, will be gradual.

Now, if the transition of the planet were also gradual, would Ra have mentioned that? Which leads me to believe that, as mentioned elsewhere by Ra, 4D Earth already exists...the difference is that we humans have to catch up so we can attune to that 'layer' of the multi-layered Earth reality...via a natural, gradual, evolutionary process.

Which brings us to your next point:

Now that I think of it, could Wilcock when he says shift mean what Ra means with harvest? I believe the harvest was supposedly instantaneous. Most processes in nature are a gradual building up of energy until the whole system falls back to a lower state of energy balance by going through a phase shift. Much like water remains water for a long time if you start cooling it but then suddenly phase shifts and then becomes stable again as you cool it further. It's true to say that the freezing process takes time but it's also somewhat true to say the actual freezing is semi instantaneous. If this is applicable to the 3d to 4d shift then both ways of saying it would be true and indicate this process.

Ra is clearly talking about US, as in how we, the inhabitants of Earth, will transition to 4D bodies. This is indeed a separate and distinct process from Earth going 4D.

As quoted earlier in this thread, this planet already has 7 levels of reality...4D is already activated...so how could Ra be referring to Earth's transition?

It seems to me that Ra is referring the Harvest of 3D souls into 4D...Aside from that remote possibility of our entire planet harmonizing in an instant, how could we all be harvested at the same time, when there are clearly so many souls still on the fence or stuck in the muck?

At any rate, while other quotes may indeed be subject to interpretation, I just don't see how anyone could so casually disregard this quote as though it were an inconvenience: between 100 and 700 of your years as transition period.