New Zeitgeist movie

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that is totally discounting the fact that, polarization needs to happen spiritually. when a negative entity enslaves others through usage of technology, without having to exert self-oriented willpower and intent, it does not cause them to polarize. its more like running a machine.

I'm not so sure, especially with a visual apparatus like television. If someone on tv is spreading manipulative thoughts, or programming you to spend money on things you can't afford, visually seeing them you must be making some sort of connection on another plane. Let's say a politician gets on tv and says "You can no longer do this or that." An entity may feel controlled by that politician. This has to cause further polarization in the politician.

We know that the negative path is two fold: to enslave others, and to separate itself from others as much as possible. We also know that as a whole they want a negative harvest. While consumerism or technology may not directly cause enslavement in many cases, these provide fertile ground for it. It is the act of becoming engulfed in these trappings that people disconnect themselves from others because they're focused on the self. Worrying about their own success and achievements while disregarding those around them is not enslavement, but self-serving.

So we can see that a self-serving individual who falls for negative marketing/technology traps doesn't need to be enslaved spiritually to help polarize the planet negatively. If they create separation without enslavement, this is beneficial regardless. Someone wishing to achieve higher success, begin distorting their beliefs and do the will of others thus becoming enslaved. So consumerism can be seen as a root cause. Or they enslave others for their own personal will.

Possibly because there is so much individualization they aren't able to exert the necessary control to move the polarization in their direction. The hierarchy and system on this planet is too fragmented..there are so many people everywhere doing their own thing, and this could be why their influence isn't as effective. It's also why many devious agendas are masked as being for the benefit of the whole, when in reality it is to consolidate power. The more you herd into one place the easier it is to exert control in one fell swoop.

An entity not enslaved but rather engulfed in their own life by way of the various distractions, becomes oblivious to the motives and operations in place to create or enhance enslavement. This seems to be their main adaptation of using various thought control schemes for their advantage.

So yes, I can agree that this programming has attributes and drawbacks for them.

i dont want to work for myself. i want to work with others.

I simply meant being able to rely on yourself. I want to work with others too.

lets face it - not only a lot of entities here (4d incarnates, wanderers, late 3d entities) have much higher activity in mind, spirit in order to be able to go back to a primeal life style, and live like that for prolonged periods of time. neither we should have to.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say. I'm advocating living in harmony with nature too, by creating communities where everything is shared. I'm saying it's best to become self-reliant, and form smaller communities now while working on changing the larger picture. If it's in reference to hunting, I'm working on a mostly vegetarian diet.

i didnt consciously think that, if positive is giving without expecting anything, then giving something by putting the cost of that thing and a extra profit in return, could be something negative. i was all fed with education that told me that was something good, something 'innovative' and 'fair'. i always thought that these could work with positivity. but, i always had issues with taking money from people, even at work.

It is the hardest aspect of forming a larger community. People are used to being compensated congruently for their work. Moreover, there will be those that neglect to contribute to the system. Those that have specific skills that require a great deal of the self may feel that they have a greater burden put on them. They will see it as being unequal. In the advanced stages all would contribute equally, or there will be those that desire to give more.