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    Thread: The Cultivation of Radical Honesty


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    01-30-2011, 03:04 PM
    (01-30-2011, 01:25 PM)jeremy6d Wrote: I imagine this indicates not merely honesty in interactions with others but especially with oneself.

    the hardest and most important.

    Quote:In the past I have had difficulty with this. One reason for this, I suppose, is that the dishonesty with oneself is almost always in the service of protection; in other words, you are hiding something from yourself to prevent pain.

    quite. suppression of undesirable or uncomfortable concepts, memories, situations, necessities or projection of them into peripheral things to justify and rationalize them to be able to keep doing/maintaining them and so on.

    honesty with self is hard.

    Quote:Another reason is a lack of will or concentration. When thoughts flit through the mind, especially thoughts contrary to where you are attempting to focus your energy, it can be a struggle to determine what the proper response is. On the one hand, you don't want to repress these thoughts, and I feel like I've made strides in having patience with my own impatience, for lack of a better expression. On the other hand, it doesn't seem that the process Ra describes of having those thoughts and tendencies which are no longer needed simply "fall away" suddenly; in other words, the falling away is gradual and not effected in some immediate sense.

    indeed so.

    the 'falling away' phenomenon is more or less the form in situations where you live in some isolation with people that are of high vibrations or harmonious (or in total isolation).

    but in cities or in places where there are people and a lot of thoughts, thought-forms, feelings and emotions flying about in time/space, the falling away phenomenon doesnt work that easy. you need to be as pure as a flying feather for things not to get stuck to you in such a situation. even if you are, there will be times you will accumulate wear&tear or get into energetic/emotional situations (life, work, mass transportation etc) in which you will be vulnerable to stuff sticking to you.

    moreover, and more importantly, if the entity is working with rays higher than green, there will be other problems - if the entity is fully open in green chakra, s/he will be totally empathetic to others' thoughts and feelings, and if s/he doesnt have the sufficient blue to discern in between them, s/he may quite often think that those thoughts, feelings are his or her own thoughts and feelings, even if they may belong to other entities.

    this is probably why the main theme of 5d and blue ray, is focus, intensification in general. (ra tells us as such - even told that the negative and positive work looks similar from outside, tho different in inside).

    so basically anyone trying to work on higher chakras in a city environment (or a crowded one etc), may have to start learning some focus and intensification and also blue ray communication/wisdom in order to be able to discern what emotions/thoughts are his/her own, and what are not.

    also, honesty with self comes into play in that regard - it is also similar work regarding blue ray.

    Quote:But if this pattern is to be turned around, if I am to commit my energy in a way that breaks the cycle, and sort of hold on for dear life to a discipline, how am I to do so without in some sense introducing regimentation and control over myself at least on some level? How do I discipline the self with love?

    you dont discipline the self with love. discipline is not something like a spartan discipline or military concept. it is more a focus on what is coming from your spirit. the driving force should be spirit, and the focus be its focus.

    the honesty of self is important to be able to learn to discern one's own inner spiritual desires and direction from the noise flying about from other people. other people's desires and directions, are other people's desires and directions. its theirs to follow, and noone else can follow it for them. roads may cross, and continue together for a long time, and may even continue from start to end altogether, but still, there will be more than one road.

    discipline of self is not a fascist thing.

    Quote:I understand that the most important resource here is patience and compassion for self; I guess maybe the real conundrum here for me is that I'm having trouble considering compassion and patience in the full constellation of aspects that apply here.

    compassion is related to green ray and the 4th chakra work. you wont be walking the above chakras with compassion or patience. you need to raise those vibrations and upgrade them to their higher ones. blue after green, indigo after blue.
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    The Cultivation of Radical Honesty - by rva_jeremy - 01-30-2011, 01:25 PM
    RE: The Cultivation of Radical Honesty - by Sacred Fool - 01-30-2011, 01:51 PM
    RE: The Cultivation of Radical Honesty - by rva_jeremy - 01-30-2011, 02:25 PM
    RE: The Cultivation of Radical Honesty - by Sacred Fool - 01-30-2011, 06:40 PM
    RE: The Cultivation of Radical Honesty - by rva_jeremy - 01-30-2011, 07:46 PM
    RE: The Cultivation of Radical Honesty - by Sacred Fool - 01-31-2011, 03:41 PM
    RE: The Cultivation of Radical Honesty - by Ankh - 01-30-2011, 08:00 PM
    RE: The Cultivation of Radical Honesty - by AppleSeed - 01-31-2011, 10:05 PM
    RE: The Cultivation of Radical Honesty - by rva_jeremy - 02-01-2011, 01:00 AM
    RE: The Cultivation of Radical Honesty - by AppleSeed - 02-01-2011, 02:15 PM
    RE: The Cultivation of Radical Honesty - by Sacred Fool - 02-01-2011, 03:23 AM
    RE: The Cultivation of Radical Honesty - by Ankh - 02-01-2011, 08:50 AM
    RE: The Cultivation of Radical Honesty - by unity100 - 01-30-2011, 03:04 PM
    RE: The Cultivation of Radical Honesty - by JoshC - 01-30-2011, 09:03 PM
    RE: The Cultivation of Radical Honesty - by kycahi - 01-30-2011, 10:22 PM
    RE: The Cultivation of Radical Honesty - by mikesc - 01-31-2011, 09:26 PM
    RE: The Cultivation of Radical Honesty - by Confused - 02-01-2011, 04:26 AM
    RE: The Cultivation of Radical Honesty - by Brittany - 02-01-2011, 12:21 PM
    RE: The Cultivation of Radical Honesty - by rva_jeremy - 02-01-2011, 02:54 PM
    RE: The Cultivation of Radical Honesty - by AppleSeed - 02-01-2011, 03:24 PM
    RE: The Cultivation of Radical Honesty - by unity100 - 02-01-2011, 07:27 PM
    RE: The Cultivation of Radical Honesty - by AppleSeed - 02-03-2011, 01:54 PM

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