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    Thread: Was Evil invented by mistake ?


    Diana (Offline)

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    09-03-2020, 11:33 AM
    (09-03-2020, 01:52 AM)Aion Wrote: How do you know that you suffer? What is the basis for this consideration?

    Further, how will you know when that suffering has ceased?

    Personally, when I speak of suffering, I always mean the suffering of others—mostly others that aren't human. I am aware that this perspective is one of separation in a way (individual entities). But there is, in the Ra material, accountability and responsibility. Humans cause suffering—to each other (which I have less of a problem with because of accountability and responsibility) and to all other beings on this planet including the planet.

    I can't be so cavalier about the suffering that humans cause. However, I understand there is a bigger picture. But that bigger picture is NOT KNOWN. I am not sure why so many think they actually know, or believe something particular; this is aside with what may resonate.

    There is a balance to achieve here in my opinion—not get caught up in the maelstrom but not to ignore it either. Practically speaking, is it wise to have a philosophy that minimizes suffering—especially the suffering one causes to others? 

    I find it extremely difficult to articulate my full meaning on this subject. I guess I don't like the attitude that suffering is just okay because it's the Creator's experience or some other cosmic view. The thing is, if anything matters everything does. Maybe nothing matters. 

    On any given day I will have a different response to this subject. When I am here, reading posts, I sometimes feel that attitudes are cavalier about the suffering of others. When I am out and about I am in a more accepting mindset (about humanity). But I find it hard to accept the suffering humans cause to other life forms. And it seems to me a crappy plan to include such. 

    The basis for suffering is an observation that entities are in pain, emotionally, physically, mentally, and spiritually. When it comes to 2D, spiritual pain (may) be left out. When one sees an old war vet on the street homeless, physically debilitated, is this not suffering (needless suffering from the perspective of human greed and folly)? I can speculate that this choice on the part of the war vet is valid. I still don't have to like the way the veil makes this possible. And, maybe I am a child spiritually who may at some point understand that this is good; but regarding accountability and responsibility, I cannot imagine it being good for any entities but humans, and that if such a plan is in place it ought to bypass the entities who are not benefitting from the veil. I am also aware that I may be speaking out of ignorance of the bigger picture. So if anyone would like to inform me based on what Ra said (please, no Q'uo or other conscious channeling), I am happy to hear it. Smile
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    Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Patrick - 08-16-2020, 06:49 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by AnthroHeart - 08-16-2020, 07:15 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Infinite - 08-16-2020, 07:24 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Patrick - 08-16-2020, 08:47 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 08-16-2020, 07:34 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Patrick - 08-16-2020, 09:20 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 08-16-2020, 10:34 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Black Dragon - 08-29-2020, 11:37 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Sacred Fool - 08-30-2020, 08:33 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Ymarsakar - 09-09-2020, 09:12 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Patrick - 08-17-2020, 09:13 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 08-17-2020, 11:16 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by AnthroHeart - 08-17-2020, 09:16 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Patrick - 08-17-2020, 09:58 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by AnthroHeart - 08-17-2020, 10:05 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Patrick - 08-17-2020, 03:22 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 08-17-2020, 04:01 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Infinite Unity - 08-17-2020, 07:06 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by AnthroHeart - 08-17-2020, 07:08 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by JJCarsonian - 08-18-2020, 01:38 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 08-30-2020, 01:34 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Diana - 08-30-2020, 11:42 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Minyatur - 08-31-2020, 09:05 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Patrick - 09-01-2020, 07:04 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 09-02-2020, 01:56 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Diana - 09-02-2020, 11:11 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Minyatur - 09-02-2020, 02:24 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Patrick - 09-02-2020, 07:04 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by AnthroHeart - 09-02-2020, 08:52 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by hounsic - 09-02-2020, 12:58 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 09-03-2020, 01:52 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Diana - 09-03-2020, 11:33 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Patrick - 09-03-2020, 12:32 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 09-03-2020, 02:18 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Diana - 09-04-2020, 11:56 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Patrick - 09-03-2020, 07:01 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 09-03-2020, 02:39 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Patrick - 09-04-2020, 07:45 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 09-04-2020, 07:54 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Patrick - 09-04-2020, 03:48 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Glow - 09-07-2020, 01:32 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 09-04-2020, 08:10 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 09-04-2020, 03:16 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 09-04-2020, 03:59 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Patrick - 09-04-2020, 05:58 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by flofrog - 09-04-2020, 07:49 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Glow - 09-07-2020, 01:48 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Patrick - 09-04-2020, 07:53 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 09-05-2020, 01:58 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by RitaJC - 09-05-2020, 10:04 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by David_1 - 09-06-2020, 06:21 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Patrick - 09-06-2020, 02:35 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by AnthroHeart - 09-06-2020, 10:46 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 09-06-2020, 03:25 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Patrick - 09-06-2020, 06:50 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 09-06-2020, 06:55 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Patrick - 09-07-2020, 12:44 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 09-07-2020, 02:07 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Glow - 09-07-2020, 01:15 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 09-07-2020, 02:39 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Glow - 09-07-2020, 02:42 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 09-07-2020, 02:23 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Glow - 09-07-2020, 02:35 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 09-07-2020, 02:41 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 09-07-2020, 02:46 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 09-07-2020, 02:50 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by AnthroHeart - 09-07-2020, 03:24 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Minyatur - 09-07-2020, 04:08 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Diana - 09-09-2020, 10:59 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Minyatur - 09-10-2020, 03:28 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Black Dragon - 09-10-2020, 11:18 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Black Dragon - 09-10-2020, 11:26 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Black Dragon - 09-10-2020, 11:27 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Diana - 09-11-2020, 10:59 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Patrick - 09-07-2020, 06:26 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Glow - 09-07-2020, 03:56 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by flofrog - 09-07-2020, 05:39 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Patrick - 09-07-2020, 09:05 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 09-07-2020, 10:19 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 09-07-2020, 10:40 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 09-07-2020, 10:42 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Patrick - 09-08-2020, 09:59 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Ymarsakar - 09-09-2020, 09:01 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Patrick - 09-09-2020, 11:08 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Diana - 09-09-2020, 11:12 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 09-09-2020, 01:19 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Ymarsakar - 09-11-2020, 08:44 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Patrick - 09-11-2020, 09:41 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Diana - 09-11-2020, 11:13 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Patrick - 09-11-2020, 03:17 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 09-11-2020, 03:38 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 09-09-2020, 01:25 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Black Dragon - 09-10-2020, 03:45 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 09-09-2020, 01:27 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 09-09-2020, 02:56 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Patrick - 09-09-2020, 03:11 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Diana - 09-09-2020, 08:43 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 09-09-2020, 03:43 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by AnthroHeart - 09-09-2020, 05:42 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Patrick - 09-09-2020, 08:48 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by flofrog - 09-10-2020, 01:23 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Diana - 09-09-2020, 08:55 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 09-10-2020, 01:24 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 09-10-2020, 01:48 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by David_1 - 09-10-2020, 05:43 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Diana - 09-10-2020, 11:23 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 09-10-2020, 12:40 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 09-10-2020, 01:51 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Aion - 09-10-2020, 03:56 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Patrick - 09-11-2020, 07:35 AM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Patrick - 09-11-2020, 06:22 PM
    RE: Was Evil invented by mistake ? - by Ymarsakar - 09-11-2020, 06:29 PM

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