09-20-2020, 11:52 PM
It’s so interesting how we all are seeking so differently.
And from your own quote:
We do not consider that a separation exists between the consciousness-raising efforts of the distortion which you project as a personality and the distortion which you project as an other-personality.
Which is what I’m taking about. These personalities are distortions and projections. Or as Ra also said illusionary husks.
I experience being Glow so do not spiritual bypass.
I have accepted the parts of her I have met.
I actually seek my subconscious directly to peer where I haven’t seen yet. Obviously I haven’t seen it all yet. I’m just 43. But I am no more these things than I was the things of other lives. They are impermiminent. Transitory or I am being this is not the same as I am this.
Hense the jumping around in my identification from different perspectives.
These transitory illusionary masks can be anything. In that way I agree we all are everything.
At a different perspective though none of this is really “US” any of this.
So face what is part of the current life yes, accept it of course but when I say we are none of it I mean as the spark that started gathering life experiences and wounds.
It was just love. The first distortion. All these parts we claim are us are just ways that spark of love has been distorted and expressed through the journey.
The journey - pain, fear, joy, biases, attachments, without them we are none of those things we carry and experience in life. So really that isn’t US at all.
I know spiritual bypass get thrown around but that’s when you haven’t looked closely at the parts, understood where they developed, why, had empathy for them, ect. This is just a different perspective. Sounds like you are doing that too it’s just a different perspective which is kind of the point.
You say you are the psychopath, I say there are no psychopaths just experiences of being a psychopath for a time for what ever reason that got one there. Sure feels real and can be a lot of catylist for a lot of people. But what is being the psychopath will also not be a psychopath. It’s just a role, a life, impermanent, transitory so I guess it just where one identifies most as them
For me I am being Glow, that can change moment to moment all that lasts is the awareness beneath that experiences them. Still a lot of good colour and interesting memories, some good, some not but a product of the path. Not actually what one is at their core.
When I quoted the part about disassociation I did not read that as Ra recommending pushing away or regecting stuff but letting it drop once it is done, even if that’s just moments at a time vs clinging as the ego does.
Disassociate as in no longer associating it as me, because I see it isn’t.
Moving back to creator as we all are after 3D one path is seeing how we are all the same because none of US ARE these things we can be these things at times “ distortions you project as personalities” but there is something more true that is longer lasting.
I guess it’s like seeing an over tired, hungry 6 year old, who feels sad and she’s being a brat. She’s screaming and being rude and disruptive. Choose any description.
Is she a brat? Rude? Disruptive?
To me she’s experiencing being hungry, overtired and sad as a 6 year old so is acting out. It doesn’t make her rude, a brat or whatever, though she can be those things temporarily and I see all humans and lives that way, myself included.
We are the spark before it is acted upon by catylist or at peace between catylist. All this stuff that comes as effects of catylist is just effects of catylist.
I was going to keep talking to be clear but words are imperfect and even Ra has trouble being clear so I am not going to force it.
Now I say this is true for me.
It’s true for others because I have seen the same sentiments expresssed by much more spiritually aware beings than I am currently.
I actually just rented the Ram das “becoming nobody” documentary off iTunes and his great mantra I am loving awareness kind of sums up who he thinks his true self is too.
So many different paths and perspectives.
Not saying it has to be true for you. You can be all the things.
I’m what is underneath that acts certain ways for a while. Currently Glow but who knows what I will be for a while next.
And from your own quote:
We do not consider that a separation exists between the consciousness-raising efforts of the distortion which you project as a personality and the distortion which you project as an other-personality.
Which is what I’m taking about. These personalities are distortions and projections. Or as Ra also said illusionary husks.
I experience being Glow so do not spiritual bypass.
I have accepted the parts of her I have met.
I actually seek my subconscious directly to peer where I haven’t seen yet. Obviously I haven’t seen it all yet. I’m just 43. But I am no more these things than I was the things of other lives. They are impermiminent. Transitory or I am being this is not the same as I am this.
Hense the jumping around in my identification from different perspectives.
These transitory illusionary masks can be anything. In that way I agree we all are everything.
At a different perspective though none of this is really “US” any of this.
So face what is part of the current life yes, accept it of course but when I say we are none of it I mean as the spark that started gathering life experiences and wounds.
It was just love. The first distortion. All these parts we claim are us are just ways that spark of love has been distorted and expressed through the journey.
The journey - pain, fear, joy, biases, attachments, without them we are none of those things we carry and experience in life. So really that isn’t US at all.
I know spiritual bypass get thrown around but that’s when you haven’t looked closely at the parts, understood where they developed, why, had empathy for them, ect. This is just a different perspective. Sounds like you are doing that too it’s just a different perspective which is kind of the point.
You say you are the psychopath, I say there are no psychopaths just experiences of being a psychopath for a time for what ever reason that got one there. Sure feels real and can be a lot of catylist for a lot of people. But what is being the psychopath will also not be a psychopath. It’s just a role, a life, impermanent, transitory so I guess it just where one identifies most as them
For me I am being Glow, that can change moment to moment all that lasts is the awareness beneath that experiences them. Still a lot of good colour and interesting memories, some good, some not but a product of the path. Not actually what one is at their core.
When I quoted the part about disassociation I did not read that as Ra recommending pushing away or regecting stuff but letting it drop once it is done, even if that’s just moments at a time vs clinging as the ego does.
Disassociate as in no longer associating it as me, because I see it isn’t.
Moving back to creator as we all are after 3D one path is seeing how we are all the same because none of US ARE these things we can be these things at times “ distortions you project as personalities” but there is something more true that is longer lasting.
I guess it’s like seeing an over tired, hungry 6 year old, who feels sad and she’s being a brat. She’s screaming and being rude and disruptive. Choose any description.
Is she a brat? Rude? Disruptive?
To me she’s experiencing being hungry, overtired and sad as a 6 year old so is acting out. It doesn’t make her rude, a brat or whatever, though she can be those things temporarily and I see all humans and lives that way, myself included.
We are the spark before it is acted upon by catylist or at peace between catylist. All this stuff that comes as effects of catylist is just effects of catylist.
I was going to keep talking to be clear but words are imperfect and even Ra has trouble being clear so I am not going to force it.
Now I say this is true for me.
It’s true for others because I have seen the same sentiments expresssed by much more spiritually aware beings than I am currently.
I actually just rented the Ram das “becoming nobody” documentary off iTunes and his great mantra I am loving awareness kind of sums up who he thinks his true self is too.
So many different paths and perspectives.
Not saying it has to be true for you. You can be all the things.
I’m what is underneath that acts certain ways for a while. Currently Glow but who knows what I will be for a while next.