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    Thread: Environment, Abuse & Choice


    Diana (Offline)

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    10-17-2020, 11:46 AM
    I love this description of their environment:

    https://llresearch.org/transcripts/issue..._0104.aspx Wrote:I (Latwii) understand, my sister. Because we are answering you we give you a different answer than others of the Confederation. Please understand that some of our members come from very different vibrations. Our situation is, however, as follows. We are our environment. We are a sun body as a community. The body of the sun being the male population of our sphere, the beams being what some call photon energy and what others call angelic energy. Thus, we live in a light vibration and form our environment, which in your terms is a very simple one since our entire society radiates in light and our, shall we say, families are products of the polarity between the compactness of the light body and the great receptivity and expansiveness of, what you would perhaps call, a sunbeam. Thus, we perpetuate ourselves in a manner not understood by your scientists and this is true of many of your sun bodies.

    At risk of sounding contrary (not for the first time Tongue) and reluctant to accept what is (I'm not), I have a few thoughts on the following:

    Quote:...Unfortunately, beings such as yourself who have come to realize the oneness of being which they share with their planetary sphere, you are in a vibration in which you are encased in a heavy chemical vehicle. You cannot hear the flowers and the trees speak nor understand the song of the wind. And it is not apparent to many of your peoples that each part of the creation of the Father that exists upon your planet dwells in service. Thus, as you attempt to be of service to the planetary sphere that aided you in living, it is difficult for you to see with calmness and peace the great abuse of others.


    However, my sister, that’s the third density for you. That’s, unfortunately, the way it is. People will, because of a lack of ability to feel the connections between their body and their minds, their minds and the Earth, their minds and the minds of each other and so forth, you will see abuses going on of all types. People abusing their own body by feeding them improperly, people abusing the Earth by using it improperly, people abusing each other by failing to see clearly the face of love in each entity.

    This idea that there is a reason for abuse that we cannot know, that there is a "Father" who oversees it, and that one must have faith, sounds a lot like the circular thinking of traditional Christianity. From the point of view of the archetype study in the Ra Material, this makes a bit more sense, though I don't recall anything about a "Father" in any of it.

    It may be true that we in 3D don't connect with the flowers, the wind, the trees in the way they describe, but some people do actually, at least to some degree, have that connection. Indigenous people sometimes do, and I can say that I sometimes do. Maybe not to extent that is wide open, but it is there nonetheless. And here again I catch a similarity with Christianity in that that religion perpetuates the idea that everything is here in service to humanity (though I don't suggest Latwii is saying this particularly), that humans can use animals and plants etc. because it's all here for them. But Latwii saying that the flowers and trees etc. are all here in service lends itself to this notion.

    Maybe this notion of everything being here in service would be appropriate for an advanced society of people who are aware of the connection between all things. But this is not so in our current society. Even people who get the basic concept may still eat a hamburger (derived from the torture and slaughter of an animal) or cut down a tree (which is a community in itself) in their yard for landscaping.

    I am dubious about this message because it seems to me, in the way that Christianity avoids responsibility by saying Jesus took everyone's sins away (which relieves people of being accountable) it implies that abuse and suffering are okay. This may be true in the bigger picture, but here, now, it seems to me this idea just gives humanity, in varying degrees, an excuse to continue abusing.

    And as far as the idea that there is no understanding in 3D, this also sounds much like a Christian saying "we can't know God's plan" or such language. Unfortunately, humankind has moved through centuries under the oppression of religion. And I think many people find comfort in that yoke. I think acceptance of what is, and caving in to what something or someone tells you what is, are two different things.

    I bring these ideas up not to be argumentative, or destroy the beauty one finds in Latwii's words, but as a matter of a varying point of view (which changes and evolves).
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    Environment, Abuse & Choice - by Sacred Fool - 10-15-2020, 12:18 AM
    RE: Environment, Abuse & Choice - by Diana - 10-17-2020, 11:46 AM
    RE: Environment, Abuse & Choice - by Sacred Fool - 10-17-2020, 01:09 PM
    RE: Environment, Abuse & Choice - by Diana - 10-17-2020, 03:50 PM
    RE: Environment, Abuse & Choice - by Sacred Fool - 10-17-2020, 04:35 PM
    RE: Environment, Abuse & Choice - by Diana - 10-17-2020, 08:25 PM
    RE: Environment, Abuse & Choice - by Sacred Fool - 10-17-2020, 09:40 PM
    RE: Environment, Abuse & Choice - by Diana - 10-18-2020, 10:23 AM
    RE: Environment, Abuse & Choice - by Sacred Fool - 10-18-2020, 04:10 PM
    RE: Environment, Abuse & Choice - by flofrog - 10-19-2020, 09:13 AM
    RE: Environment, Abuse & Choice - by Diana - 10-19-2020, 01:37 PM
    RE: Environment, Abuse & Choice - by flofrog - 11-01-2020, 01:05 PM
    RE: Environment, Abuse & Choice - by dexter101 - 10-19-2020, 10:18 AM
    RE: Environment, Abuse & Choice - by Infinite - 10-31-2020, 04:40 PM

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