11-16-2020, 09:09 PM
(11-15-2020, 03:06 AM)J.W. Wrote: "helping" other-self is tricky. But if you can place yourself in their 3D vessel/path, this might help.
I.E.: Let's say your good friend is overweight, and because you care and love him/her, you want to help.
A: you can give them a chocolate cake knowing they'd be happy. You spend 12 bucks for the cake and one day to hang out with them.
B: you motivate them to work out and take care of their health, but you need to sacrifice your time and money to do this.
Both choices has STO path ingrained in them, but it is the level of "understanding" of the "self" and "other-self" that would yield the better outcome.
If you were in your friend's 3D body, I bet that you know damn well you don't need another chocolate cake, and you need to get your act together. Therefore, understanding this may help you lean towards option B and realizing that "if I was in their shoe, this would help me in the long run." type of deal.
How to translate this understanding and to produce a genuine "service" is the struggle most STO paths must traverse.
I am going to comment here as this is something important. Your fat friends, know they are fat. Your alcoholic friends, usually know they are an alcoholic, same for smokers and drug users. Drug users can be the most difficult to be self aware of since often the drug is prescribed or used to self medicate.
You may call your friend or relative fat, fatty, pig, tub o' lovin, fire truck when wearing red, or any other number of names to try to help them with "tough love". It does not work, trust me.
You may help your fat friend by supplying food, always appreciated in the short term, still not helpful.
You may offer dieting tips, weight loss advice, work out tips, etc. Also not helpful.
The overweight person, same as the addict of any substance, will only make the positive changes when they are ready. NOTHING you do will "change" them. Once a person makes the sincere decision to change themselves, and give up a part of the ego which they use for protection and succor, only then will they change, and it will be inevitable.
If you truly want to help someone who has any of these problems, the only thing you can do is Love them, make sure they know they are loved, and that you deeply care for their well-being. That alone is the only way you can help someone change themselves for the better. When they do change they will usually need support, acknowledging their change and being positive is enough for most people.