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    12-06-2020, 05:59 AM (This post was last modified: 12-06-2020, 06:00 AM by jafar.)
    (11-22-2020, 02:36 AM)peregrine Wrote:
    (11-17-2020, 10:08 PM)jafar Wrote: Although I don't understand on what you meant by 'mental' and 'heart' consciousness.

    The path you're on seems useful for balancing a sense of the 3D self and all its possible self-identifications.  The intended point of this thread, however, has to do with communing with the portion of self which initiates these identities, but lives well outside of 3D.  It's a place, not just of neutrality, but of transcendent acceptance, caring and inclusion.  Q'uo avers that it is accessed by 3D mortals through the passageway of the deep heart, but not merely by rearranging mental associations on a lateral 3D plane.  Entry through the looking glass of the heart opens the opportunity for direct communion with the aspect of Divinity to which we are most closely tied: our own soul.
      

    Yes as language is a "3D" tools of communication and language is a symbolization of "3D" concepts.
    There are 'concepts' beyond "3D" that is hard and nearly impossible to describe using language, thus the best way to approach it is by using 'metaphor' towards similar "3D" concept thus can be easily understood.

    Imagine explaining the meaning of the word "Red" to a blind sighted people since birth.
    The best way is to use metaphor of "sound", something that is referenceable to him, "Red" might be similar to certain frequencies of sound, like the "bass guitar" that you heard in a song. But it's frequency or spectrum of light not of sound.

    Having said that the 'higher' self doesn't lives outside of 3D.
    It lives (also) within the 3D through the means of his/her/it's avatars.

    Again explaining this in metaphor of webforum, it's in the same manner as the 'higher self' of jafar, an avatar on this webforum doesn't live outside of this webforum. He/She/It experience this webforum universe through one of it's avatar named jafar. It can also create many different avatar also on the same webforum (and also possible on many other different webforums), and have them interact with each others within the same webforum, forming a 'monologue' to him while 'dialogue' to others, especially to the avatar.

    Louisabell Wrote:Therefore we must actually enter the "simulation" and play along, as it were. We must direct our focus into each incarnational stream and exercise our freewill to the full extent that is allowed. Our Higher Self, the very essence of our potential, is being constantly fed by the distillations of our experiences as they occur in 'real-time'. So Higher Self acts as the guide, while we (souls) act as potentiators to that guide, without paradox.

    One can imagine the immense opening of possibility/probability vortexes when we exercise our freewill while interacting with other co-creators, who are also exercising their freewill. So fruitful Freewill is, that it can greatly shorten or lengthen our path back to the Creator.  Our Higher Self then becomes more and more articulated, until the time when we can step into it as the very same being as ourselves.

    So we must be 'present' for all of it, as the eternal focus of attention (soul). This focus is always the same, it is just as powerful in the first density than in the sixth density. The difference is in how muddy the viewfinder (personality) is.  ... well that's what I currently think anyways

    Yes the 'higher self' is not the 'other soul' that separated from it's 'avatar soul'.
    The word 'soul' is quite misleading actually, the word 'consciousness' is relatively closer to symbolize the concept.

    If we symbolize infinite consciousness as a very wide infinite ocean.
    Then a 'persona soul' might be defined as a finite volume of water of the infinite ocean, let's say 1 cubic meter.
    This 'soul' is a part of a larger consciousness, larger volume of water, let's say 100 souls/personas or 100 cubic meter of water of the same infinite ocean. That it's the (relatively) higher self..

    This 100 cubic of water is also part of larger part of water of the same infinite ocean, let's say 10,000 cubic meter of water. This goes on and on, as this 'unit' of consciousness evolve, it become aware that I am actually a part of an infinite ocean, and there is no other way to expand further it's scope of identification through 'enlargement' because the volume is actually infinite! The only way to reach the infinite is to dissolve it's own border of identification, without any border of identification (dissolving it's own identification border) thus it become 'unified' with the infinite ocean.

    The infinite ocean, the higher selves, the personas soul, is made of the same water, the 'scope' of how it see the volume of water (identification) is the one that is evolving until it dissolve itself and merged with the identification of infinite ocean.

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    What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by Sacred Fool - 10-15-2020, 08:42 PM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by Sacred Fool - 10-24-2020, 03:35 PM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by flofrog - 10-25-2020, 04:37 AM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by Dtris - 11-08-2020, 10:42 PM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by meadow-foreigner - 11-09-2020, 11:22 AM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by jafar - 11-09-2020, 03:16 AM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by meadow-foreigner - 11-09-2020, 11:08 AM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by Sacred Fool - 11-09-2020, 12:11 PM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by jafar - 11-09-2020, 02:31 PM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by Sacred Fool - 11-10-2020, 03:15 PM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by jafar - 11-12-2020, 01:41 AM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by Ohr Ein Sof - 12-20-2020, 06:58 PM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by Sacred Fool - 12-21-2020, 02:42 AM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by Ohr Ein Sof - 12-21-2020, 06:31 AM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by Sacred Fool - 12-22-2020, 12:29 AM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by Diana - 12-21-2020, 12:52 PM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by Sacred Fool - 12-21-2020, 03:17 PM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by Louisabell - 12-21-2020, 04:31 PM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by Ohr Ein Sof - 12-22-2020, 09:56 PM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by Black Dragon - 12-22-2020, 01:55 AM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by flofrog - 11-10-2020, 12:35 AM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by Sacred Fool - 11-12-2020, 03:25 AM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by jafar - 11-12-2020, 11:29 PM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by Sacred Fool - 11-13-2020, 10:51 AM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by jafar - 11-17-2020, 10:08 PM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by Sacred Fool - 11-22-2020, 02:36 AM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by jafar - 12-06-2020, 05:59 AM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by flofrog - 11-13-2020, 01:48 PM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by Sacred Fool - 11-13-2020, 05:45 PM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by Black Dragon - 11-13-2020, 09:47 PM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by Sacred Fool - 11-14-2020, 02:38 AM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by Louisabell - 11-22-2020, 04:35 AM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by flofrog - 11-22-2020, 12:44 PM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by Diana - 12-06-2020, 02:43 PM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by jafar - 12-07-2020, 07:00 PM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by Sacred Fool - 12-09-2020, 12:43 AM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by jafar - 12-09-2020, 12:59 AM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by meadow-foreigner - 12-06-2020, 08:04 PM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by Sacred Fool - 12-09-2020, 01:36 AM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by Minyatur - 12-09-2020, 12:25 PM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by jafar - 12-09-2020, 03:39 PM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by Sacred Fool - 12-09-2020, 11:52 PM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by Diana - 12-10-2020, 12:24 PM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by Sacred Fool - 12-11-2020, 01:24 AM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by Dtris - 12-11-2020, 07:48 PM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by Sacred Fool - 12-13-2020, 01:59 AM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by flofrog - 12-13-2020, 01:26 PM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by flofrog - 12-21-2020, 12:29 PM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by dreamoftheiris - 12-23-2020, 12:31 AM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by Sacred Fool - 12-23-2020, 12:47 AM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by Ohr Ein Sof - 12-23-2020, 08:43 AM
    RE: What is the soul and how may I approach it? - by Black Dragon - 12-23-2020, 02:37 PM
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