(02-03-2011, 05:26 PM)unity100 Wrote: i personally dont like this polarity business. negative, or positive. i think it is far too absurd to imbalance entire existence, to balance it again, and force the entities into imbalanced paths one way or the other, in order to pass through 2 major (and long) densities.
there should be a way for entities which do not want to go one way or the other, to smoothly and directly move towards the densities, even if it takes longer. it shouldnt be 'either/or'. since, from what we know from Ra, whichever density you speedily conclude, you have to balance later, and at the end ratios are always the same. you just give from one density timewise, and add to another.
I was thinking the same for quite some time. We get two choices right now. How about the third choice? Negative vs. positive and neutral - non polarity choice. Time is another aspect that I don't understand. We have the eternity - what's the rush?
Or (I speaking of myself here) I don't understand STO fully yet. STS - no problems. I get them. (And that's why it is so easy for me to destill love and light in their messages, taking only what's resonates.) STO is difficult. I get the service part, but in end we see that creation is service to others and the self at the same time. But is STO is about embracing all or not?
(02-03-2011, 05:26 PM)unity100 Wrote: and in another respect, i see that this situation is a setting in which polarity is explored. and when the next octave comes, positive/negative will be history, just like mover/moved was. currently, anything that exist moves, but they are also moved too. polarities are found within the constructs, combined. i think it will be as such in next octave too. but probably another polarity will take its place.
Yep, so in the next octave we'll be sitting here again and scrathing our heads. Maybe next one will be about control vs freedom. That would be intersting til we find that creation is both. So we'll whine to Supreme Court of our Logo. Again. Neverending story.
(02-03-2011, 05:26 PM)unity100 Wrote: you may love a negative entity all you want, but in the end, that entity doesnt want it.
But that's what I've been trying to tell you. I don't care if they want it or not. It's not for them, it's for me. When they choose to see that love, it is there, and they will do it sooner or later. And it will be for them when they want it. In the end it is not about them anyway. Others self and what you think they make you to feel is a big part of this illusion. It is always about you. Of course without certain help you cannot find what you are seeking for. As I said we are all one, and therefore both STO and STS, whatever these definitions mean. Anyway, what I want to say is that when I love them it is not for them to feel better. They don't care about that love, but honestly I don't know if I care myself whether they recognize it or not. I do it because it is who I am and because it makes me to feel better.
(02-03-2011, 05:26 PM)unity100 Wrote: ok, you went out and declared that, quarantine lifted, orion entities came. what do you think will happen ? will they stop being polarized and accept you, and therefore end duality ?
why they didnt stop it, when a conflict ensued in between confederation (of these parts) and orion, in which confederation sent love, and orion tried to enslave them then ?
basically, simply, they are firstly not in the level you want them to be to be able to see the situation as you do, and second, they have spent effort to polarize in the other way - opposite of the way which you want them to manifest as.
I might been naive B.E. but I am certainly not that anymore. I am not blind. I see what happens in the world. And I know STS. But most of all I don't want anyone to be anything that they are not. If someone finds interest in exploring STS – fine by me. Been there, done that. However, what I do find disturbing is STO's bad talk about STS. Are we not supposed to be the opposites? No we are not, because we are one. Duh! One more time please, but lets change the names of polarity.
(02-03-2011, 06:05 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: I understand your point, Ankh. But, at the same time, this is the density of Choice. Having discernment that something is of the STS path is not necessarily judging it or separating from it. Even Q'uo has distinguished between their path and the STS path.
Ra said they brought resolution of paradox. Seemingly paradoxically, it is entirely possible love and appreciate STS entities, without aligning oneself with their path, or with them as a source of information to apply to our path.
2007.11.10
Quote:You journey homeward. How shall you journey? That is the question of third density. Shall you journey in the light, seeking ever to become more of service, more loving, more giving, more aware of the love within each moment? Or shall you enjoy the dark path where the self is seen immediately as the Creator and all other selves are seen as those who would worship the Creator in you? Thus, the dark path is one where each who follows it attempts to coerce, manipulate, or otherwise use all other selves, to tell them what to do and to make sure they are useful to the self or moved out of the way of self. This also is a valid path, yet it is a dark path and a bloody path. There are those who prefer it.
We are not those. We are those of the radiant path. And so we ask you to re-member rather than dis-member yourself. We ask you to collect all of the pieces of your self and re-member yourself, to gather all of your members together. We ask that you love your imperfections, gather them to your bosom, honor them and bring them into your heart. And then we suggest that you remain in that tabernacle within even as you move upwards into the surface of life once again and experience the turbulence of the surface tides of life.
There is, to our mind, that constant flow of moving from the depths of the truth to the surface expressions of the truth, which in many cases are highly colored but always carry those seeds of the truth which lies so deeply within. All is one and all is love.
This IS a cosmic joke! I am really using a light touch on this one, and here it goes:
In "old days" folks used to quote Bible when they felt that someone was on the "wrong" side of the path, nowdays we quote Law of One. As if our own thoughts are not legimate enough. No disrespect to Law of One. If it weren't for Law of One I would probably be dead. So here I go participating in this game by quoting Ra:
"17.2 Questioner: Is it possible by the use of some technique or other to help an entity to reach fourth-density level in these last days?
Ra: I am Ra. It is impossible to help another being directly. It is only possible to make catalyst available in whatever form, the most important being the radiation of realization of oneness with the Creator from the self, less important being information such as we share with you."
(02-03-2011, 06:05 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: That doesn't negate, however, the importance of discernment when reading Lucifer's books. We can metaphorically hug 'Lucifer' without adopting his strategies...the very strategies that work for Lucifer on his path won't work for us on ours.
Much love to Hidden Hand...but I choose to not heed his words, for he is a self-professed STS entity. His path is a violent and bloody path...
I can love him without accepting his counsel. His counsel doesn't apply to the STO path. How could it? As careful as Carla, Don, and Jim were to ensure purity of information, without distortion, I just don't feel that Hidden Hand, as a source of information, is to be trusted. Sure, there might be some nuggets of truth sprinkled throughout the text, but it seems inefficient to have to wade thru all the deceptions to get to those nuggets.
There is a great deal of caution to be taken while reading and understanding the material that is dear to your heart. When you resonate highly with the material, in this case Ra material, you are more prone to try to take it all close to the heart though some parts do not resonate, or even evoke a slight fear in the subconsciousness. In that case it might be "easier" to listen to other channels and only take what resonates in positive way in them, but is harder to do so with the material that is close to you, such as Ra material. In other channelings you can easily recognize the fear and negativity, but in the "dear" material it is not that easy suddenly, though both Ra (unsure right now whether they actually did that) and Quo states that we need to guard our thoughts while reading it. "Take what resonates" - and why is that? My bet would be on that fact that each is a unique portion of the Creator and needs to find it's own path/truth/what resonates. I've allready wrote it to you in another thread.