Entities from Orion

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Service to self comes in disguise as STS, say when an advanced being comes along, in person or through channel, and offers truly (and I mean truly) wise counsel. Word spreads and soon a following builds of people who, like us, want to learn.

Eventually, this wise leader chooses some few adepts who show quick learning and dedication (and something more) and appoints them as local emissaries and coaxes the flock to follow them. The adepts definitely have chosen STS, consciously or otherwise, and some of the followers may strive to become an adept themselves, thus choosing. At any time so far, a follower may find something not right and fall away. So might an adept too, discerning not to want to be this kind of "master of others."

According to Ra, our planet is set up to make STS a very tough style to adopt. Other planets, though, might produce masses of "adepts" that have gone on to being slaves and masters of slaves of STS.

If I am right about this, then the "polarity" here is not something that we are supposed to balance; it really is a choice. Not choosing means not getting past the choice step, so a kind of stagnation. This thread perhaps has exposed how the English language fails us by confusing what "polarity" can mean.

We had a swedish Wanderer who remembered many of his past lifes and wrote a lot of books about it. One life he remembered was about that choice. The name of the planet was/is Shermyl. After some time there appeared two large orders, Alpha and Omega. He became the leader of the Omega block, what would be called STS in this present time here. Leader of the Alpha block was a woman that he remembered previous life with. It was his soulmate from another world, world of Light called Kvartur Glon. They had no chemical bodies there, it was some kind of energy bodies and this world is placed somewhere near center of Logo, since they never had any nights. Anyway, his conclusion based on that many memories, that the colour of the soul is light, but the soul driven too far in any direction is not balanced. Duh! And that's what I maybe rebel at as well. Both sides exists. But I feel nausea when either side go too far. If others want to do it they are very welcomed, it is a joy to see a soul driven by the passion and desire. But myself considered, I don't want to loose all of my chilly distance and get involved in some kind of passionate space opera with no objective perspective. STO can harm others as well if driven too far, so it's not only applied at STS. STS is actually quite easy to understand in this concept as they are clear in their devotion and what they want – power and control, no matter the costs. What do STO want?

It's not the quoting that is at fault; it's the manner in which it is done.

Offering a quote, to be considered, is not the same as demanding that someone accept it.

Consiously no, but there might be an unconsious desire for it if it is not illuminated.

Offering a quote, in order to help explain one's point of view, is not the same as using that quote to prove someone wrong.

No it's not, but we are humans prone to make misstakes and it happens whether it was our intent in the first place or not.

This forum's purpose is to study together, and help one another learn and grow, utilizing the information given to us by Ra. We have all, already tacitly accepted the Law of One as valid, though we don't all understand it in exactly the same way. But we do have it as our foundation; else we wouldn't be members of this forum!

That's why I am here. Again, I am not rebelling the Law of One here, just some interpretations of it that challenging nothing else but my own biases.

It's true that we quote from it frequently; we are studying it! But each person here knows that it is their own responsibility as to how to interpret it, whether to accept it or not, whether to accept others' interpretation or not, etc. That is a key principle in the material itself: that we each accept that which resonates.

I saw a picture in front of me from the "old days" where people quoted from the Bible, throwing it in the face of those who were on the "wrong" side and I thought for myself – Oh my God, is this what we are doing right now? Again? Only with new words, wider understanding and more "cosmic" approach? I went outside of our house, gazed at the stars and sincerely laughed out loud. Believe it or not, it felt like there were others there rejoicing the same touch of light.

It is Carla's wish (and, I daresay, Ra's!) that the Law of One not be made into a dogma, cult, or religion, or that it be imposed on anyone. On the few occasions that this has been attempted, action was taken. This forum will not allow that to happen.

The above seem to be some kind of desire to control. In true STO spirit it would rather be that if some student of LOO would want to start any kind of Ra church they would be allowed to do that. I am not questioning Carla's decision here, just discussing the STO path and if there are any boundaries where acceptance is not longer offered.

Religious proselytizers often impose their religion on others, and that's why we don't like it when they quote from their book. But I don't see the use of quoting here at Bring4th to be in that category at all.

Is that how it seems to you? That we are all trying to impose a new religion?

If so, do you have any suggestions as to how we can study the material together, without coming across in that way?

As if our own thoughts are not legimate enough. No disrespect to Law of One. If it weren't for Law of One I would probably be dead. So here I go participating in this game by quoting Ra

I'm confused. Are you saying we quote the Law of One too much and should, instead, offer our own thoughts? Do we not all do that already? There is a great deal of opinionated discourse on this forum! (some have even proposed that members don't quote the Law of One enough!)

And yet, you have just quoted Ra also.

It is a difference to quote from the material when one wants to discuss a certain session or explore a topic in LOO that one doesn't understand yet, but it's a completly another thing when LOO is quoted because there is a disagreement in opinions based on other issues than study of LOO. That's what I showed yesterday by quoting.

Yes, living it is most important. But why not support one another in fellowship and friendship, as well as help one another in our studies and life paths?

I hope that it's what we are doing right now. Sometimes it happens in some kind of "bellicose" Earth kind of fashion way and I apologize for not always using the "brotherly" language. It is never my intention to harm others self though.

This seems to presuppose that the Law of One was already 'near and dear to our heart' however does not take into consideration, that the first time we read it, it wasn't yet any such thing.

In other words, the first time I read the Law of One, it wasn't any more special or dear than any other channeled work, or any other book for that matter. It was only because it did resonate so profoundly, that it became special.

So it's not like we had a bias going in.

For me personally, the number of times a statement by Ra didn't resonate with me, or caused fear, can be counted on one hand, and still have fingers left over.

It was like that for almost all of us I guess. It's not the beginning that is discussed by me, it is the proceeding. When the material becomes "near and dear" it becomes more difficult to disonate with parts that are not resonating. I don't have any desire to impose on others self to realise that in any other way than offerening the catalysts/ideas of it. It is so for me. Reading Lucifer information I can easily see what is what and therefore smile and destill love and light, taking only what resonates which is hard to do with Ra material that overall is too resonating.

I think you are spot on. Lucifer means "light-bringer". Does that sound like a name for the devil? I do not think so, it is just that the christian church needed someone to put the blame on, a scapegoat.
Interestingly enough that does not work any longer and nowadays they have to look for the devil among themselves, what with all the scandals of child abuse etc.

Intersting thought, Meerie. Even Ra mentioned that one can see Lucifer as a true light-bringer. I agree, that the entity at some extent is the light-bringer. This enitity handing over the tools to us and I hope we use them well. In the "old days" people blamed the devil for all kinds of evil, instead of seeking for that evil in the self. I hope that we do not repeat same misstakes today by blaming the "Orion". The situation would in that case be the same and only words would be different. In that case we have not learned anything and "Devil" will still be "out there".

Namasté