02-04-2011, 12:02 PM
(02-04-2011, 11:07 AM)Crimson Wrote: "True Light Bringer" in the Ra Material's context appears when mentioning FREE WILL:
Quote:Questioner: Would it be possible for this work of our density to be performed if all of the sub-Logoi chose the same polarity in any particular expression or evolution of a Logos? Let us make the assumption that our sun created nothing but, through the first distortion, positive polarity. There was no product except positive polarity. Would work then be done in fourth density and higher as a function of only the positive polarization evolving from the original creation of our sub-Logos?
Ra: I am Ra. Elements of this query illustrate the reason I was unable to answer your previous question without knowledge of the Logos involved. To turn to your question, there were Logoi which chose to set the plan for the activation of mind/body/spirit complexes through each true color body without recourse to the prior application of free will. It is, to our knowledge, only in an absence of free will that the conditions of which you speak obtain. In such a procession of densities you find an extraordinarily long, as you measure time, third-density; likewise, fourth density. Then, as the entities begin to see the Creator, there is a very rapid, as you measure time, procession towards the eighth density. This is due to the fact that one who knows not, cares not.
Let us illustrate by observing the relative harmony and unchanging quality of existence in one of your, as you call it, primitive tribes. The entities have the concepts of lawful and taboo, but the law is inexorable and all events occur as predestined. There is no concept of right and wrong, good or bad. It is a culture in monochrome. In this context you may see the one you call Lucifer as the true light-bringer in that the knowledge of good and evil both precipitated the mind/body/spirits of this Logos from the Edenic conditions of constant contentment and also provided the impetus to move, to work and to learn.
Those Logoi whose creations have been set up without free will have not, in the feeling of those Logoi, given the Creator the quality and variety of experience of Itself as have those Logoi which have incorporated free will as paramount. Thusly you find those Logoi moving through the timeless states at what you would see as a later space/time to choose the free will character when elucidating the foundations of each Logos.
Are you upset about something, brother?
Now I am confused by your interpretation of free will. Edenic conditions were the choice of earlier sub-logoi, thus there were no free will. Free will enters when "Lucifer & co" enters. So in that picture "Lucifer" is the Free Will. If you live in the world that is Edenic, and everybody are nice and good, how would you know it's good if you experience nothing but?
(02-04-2011, 11:07 AM)Crimson Wrote: The so called Hidden Hand or his/her Lucifer message appears to have a clear STS message: "No matter what we do just bend over and take it like a...." or "take it/do it and shut up" and things like that.
I can give you a lot of quotes for the opposite, but since it is a strictly Law of One category I give you the destilled message from them: "Be good to each other. Stay positive. We are your brothers and sisters. We love you very much but in this game we push your buttons. That is spiritually hard for us and we will work that karma off after the Harvest. While here stop looking outside yourself for evil. We handing you the tools. Use them well."