01-19-2021, 02:10 PM
(This post was last modified: 01-19-2021, 02:26 PM by Black Dragon.)
[/quote]Procreation is a karmic trap.
The gross physical senses are also a karmic trap, designed to keep human beings addicted to the pigsty that is the rather simpleton buffet that is this purely physical existence.
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I missed this on my first read through. You have been very thoughtful and helpful to me, so I am going to do my best here to return the favor and remind you of how much smarter you are than this statement would suggest. There is a hint of truth to what you said, but the way you worded it as a completely polarized and distorted platitude has detuned this statement into a dangerous falsehood. The gross physical senses(and the process of birth/incarnation) are not, inherently worthless, and they are not inherently a "trap". They are part of the creator and creation. The "lower" is part of the "higher", and higher law states that there really is no lower or higher, that all has worth in the creation. this INCLUDES your physical senses and your physical incarnate lifetime!
Just like the higher principles should not be subverted to serve the lower desires, the lower things should not be looked at as trash or mere fodder in pursuit of the higher. YES, the physical senses CAN BE a karmic trap. They are often exploited that way by the negative, and they are often fallen into as a trap. I get it. People have a tendency to trap themselves with these things like the physical desires and senses, to the point of becoming addicted to them, controlled by them, and then ultimately squandering them/wasting them and not using them to their full positive potential(and they do have positive potential!). People also subvert higher principles to serve these lower desires. All of this is true...however, these are all freewill choices.
The physical senses were not "designed" as a trap. They are just one more method of the creator experiencing itself. They are part of the whole of creation, and without every part the whole is diminished. They do not have inherently more or less value than other aspects of the creation. This is a distortion either direction one takes it in-whether it's to lust, greed, baseness and addiction, on one side, or complete self-denial and denial/unappreciation of the worth of the physical senses and incarnation, leading to a state of severe ungrounding and illness(if a quicker form of arbitrary and senseless martyrdom isn't chosen or experienced first).
The same negative beings that would want to entrap one in the karmic cycle of addiction to the senses, would be just as happy for a person to take the other route to damnation and deny the worth of their physicality and their incarnation-to unground and possibly martyr themselves, or feel the need to "escape" this "worthless" physical reality(and thus no longer be an annoyance to their goals in the 3d Earth game). Barring this, they could at least subtly get a person to deny themselves joy and fullness of existence while in 3d and make them look at it as just this s*** job/s*** chore that needs to be hammered out and can't be fun or joyful. You know. "happiness isn't the objective"(now there's an Orion whisper-in-the-ear-sounding phrase if ever I've heard one). Not particularly awful, but still a sad waste of a lifetime's potential(I know a little bit about that).
The gross physical senses are also a karmic trap, designed to keep human beings addicted to the pigsty that is the rather simpleton buffet that is this purely physical existence.
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I missed this on my first read through. You have been very thoughtful and helpful to me, so I am going to do my best here to return the favor and remind you of how much smarter you are than this statement would suggest. There is a hint of truth to what you said, but the way you worded it as a completely polarized and distorted platitude has detuned this statement into a dangerous falsehood. The gross physical senses(and the process of birth/incarnation) are not, inherently worthless, and they are not inherently a "trap". They are part of the creator and creation. The "lower" is part of the "higher", and higher law states that there really is no lower or higher, that all has worth in the creation. this INCLUDES your physical senses and your physical incarnate lifetime!
Just like the higher principles should not be subverted to serve the lower desires, the lower things should not be looked at as trash or mere fodder in pursuit of the higher. YES, the physical senses CAN BE a karmic trap. They are often exploited that way by the negative, and they are often fallen into as a trap. I get it. People have a tendency to trap themselves with these things like the physical desires and senses, to the point of becoming addicted to them, controlled by them, and then ultimately squandering them/wasting them and not using them to their full positive potential(and they do have positive potential!). People also subvert higher principles to serve these lower desires. All of this is true...however, these are all freewill choices.
The physical senses were not "designed" as a trap. They are just one more method of the creator experiencing itself. They are part of the whole of creation, and without every part the whole is diminished. They do not have inherently more or less value than other aspects of the creation. This is a distortion either direction one takes it in-whether it's to lust, greed, baseness and addiction, on one side, or complete self-denial and denial/unappreciation of the worth of the physical senses and incarnation, leading to a state of severe ungrounding and illness(if a quicker form of arbitrary and senseless martyrdom isn't chosen or experienced first).
The same negative beings that would want to entrap one in the karmic cycle of addiction to the senses, would be just as happy for a person to take the other route to damnation and deny the worth of their physicality and their incarnation-to unground and possibly martyr themselves, or feel the need to "escape" this "worthless" physical reality(and thus no longer be an annoyance to their goals in the 3d Earth game). Barring this, they could at least subtly get a person to deny themselves joy and fullness of existence while in 3d and make them look at it as just this s*** job/s*** chore that needs to be hammered out and can't be fun or joyful. You know. "happiness isn't the objective"(now there's an Orion whisper-in-the-ear-sounding phrase if ever I've heard one). Not particularly awful, but still a sad waste of a lifetime's potential(I know a little bit about that).
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