I hesitated to add this part. It’s not strictly LOO so I will point that out but since discussion has evolved I will add it. Feel free to mention if it’s not thread appropriate.
Interpretation has been injected by others so why not.
When I was with the shamanic group you learn to work in consciousness with intent and will.
Magic to some, adept work perhaps to some, either way higher than the 3D facing in the physical of will/intent between beings of solid form. Equal “battle of wills” or “negotiation of will”
Anyways in work in consiousness you are taught to direct and focus intent and then use will to push your intent like a bow projecting an arrow in the energetic tapestry. It works. I saw it work.
I had to quit because when it came to will, we were supposed to practice with people in daily life.
Not just as we meet our intent and will in the physical finding it natural resolution but also going outside that to work with the energy the other has no consious knowledge how to harness and use.
My personal trail stopped there. After I saw it work on tiny things I realized it’s power imbalance and like a wall I could not continue. No judgment that others could but to me it was like an energetic break in me following that path.
It definitely was infringement as our access to the use of will was now significantly stacked in my favour.
Independent personal wills can interact in 3D sometimes ones’ will gets its way sometimes another’s.
The higher conscious use of will when the other does not wield it equally, that to me was a very clear no go. I couldn’t even do the excercises after seeing it worked because even minor things of no consequences I could have steam rolled them. Very useful for eliciting change but focused on an individual or population it’s definitely what I recognized as true free will infringement.
Free/independent will finds it path, sometimes it wins out, sometimes the collective will or a conflicting will stops it. It’s not infringement though, resolution of equally weighted wills.
Add a different type of power or ability to wield and it’s pure infringement hence the quarantine of earth to non 3D beings.
Anyways just sharing a different experience not saying anyone has to agree.
It was a very difficult experience because I loved that path, it like L/L is why I am still in the physical, but also it was illuminating to where my literal soul would not go.
Like a road that ended at the edge of the world, no guilt, no fear or conflict just a “path that was not” for this creator,
I can still see it like a road that drove off into nothing.
I also am not saying controlling others is great.
It’s better if we can be respectful and compassionate but still one 3D will getting past the resistant of others 3D will is not a violation.
it’s the one creator and for all parts to get their way on all things, we’d need to completly work together with a super computer to have that even be possible, even with all wanting it.
So some not getting to do as they wish is unfortunately part of the system till we are aligned and a SMC starts to form. It’s inherently unavoidable and part of the system of non SMC 3D. Harmonization will resolve that but for now no one gets true freedom.
Interpretation has been injected by others so why not.
When I was with the shamanic group you learn to work in consciousness with intent and will.
Magic to some, adept work perhaps to some, either way higher than the 3D facing in the physical of will/intent between beings of solid form. Equal “battle of wills” or “negotiation of will”
Anyways in work in consiousness you are taught to direct and focus intent and then use will to push your intent like a bow projecting an arrow in the energetic tapestry. It works. I saw it work.
I had to quit because when it came to will, we were supposed to practice with people in daily life.
Not just as we meet our intent and will in the physical finding it natural resolution but also going outside that to work with the energy the other has no consious knowledge how to harness and use.
My personal trail stopped there. After I saw it work on tiny things I realized it’s power imbalance and like a wall I could not continue. No judgment that others could but to me it was like an energetic break in me following that path.
It definitely was infringement as our access to the use of will was now significantly stacked in my favour.
Independent personal wills can interact in 3D sometimes ones’ will gets its way sometimes another’s.
The higher conscious use of will when the other does not wield it equally, that to me was a very clear no go. I couldn’t even do the excercises after seeing it worked because even minor things of no consequences I could have steam rolled them. Very useful for eliciting change but focused on an individual or population it’s definitely what I recognized as true free will infringement.
Free/independent will finds it path, sometimes it wins out, sometimes the collective will or a conflicting will stops it. It’s not infringement though, resolution of equally weighted wills.
Add a different type of power or ability to wield and it’s pure infringement hence the quarantine of earth to non 3D beings.
Anyways just sharing a different experience not saying anyone has to agree.
It was a very difficult experience because I loved that path, it like L/L is why I am still in the physical, but also it was illuminating to where my literal soul would not go.
Like a road that ended at the edge of the world, no guilt, no fear or conflict just a “path that was not” for this creator,
I can still see it like a road that drove off into nothing.
I also am not saying controlling others is great.
It’s better if we can be respectful and compassionate but still one 3D will getting past the resistant of others 3D will is not a violation.
it’s the one creator and for all parts to get their way on all things, we’d need to completly work together with a super computer to have that even be possible, even with all wanting it.
So some not getting to do as they wish is unfortunately part of the system till we are aligned and a SMC starts to form. It’s inherently unavoidable and part of the system of non SMC 3D. Harmonization will resolve that but for now no one gets true freedom.
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