[split] Free will infringement and the monetary system

[confusedseeker]

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It is, it's what the elites want. Scary stuff.

I get where you're coming from.  But from my point of view, what the Elites want, is to promote this fear of socialism that you are eluding to.  What they put in place with Russia and China is a resounding success on creating fear of socialism.  They made it look like socialism automatically comes with dictatorship and loss of freedom.  That pairing was done on purpose.

In the end, the issues we find when discussing money are not going to be reconciled.  The reason being that the issue is the concept of money itself.  So even a UBI is just a stopgap measure.  I can't think of a 4d society where money would be needed in any form.

Here is an interesting question related to freewill infringement.  What would you say to the idea that a paid employee is essentially a slave ?  I don't know many people whom livelihood does not depend on wages or a salary.

I think you're very positive and optimistic, but you should also ask people who have come from socialist countries. It's not what you think. Elites will be fine, they always are.