02-11-2011, 02:47 AM
(02-06-2011, 01:41 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(02-06-2011, 01:21 PM)kycahi Wrote:What's even funnier is how, presumably, 4D is infinitely more wise than 3D.(01-27-2011, 09:43 PM)NegaNova Wrote: It's funny Hatonn was willing to go so drastically into our society's consciousness in order to help, it's like they love us so much that they were willing to do anything to help, even when their actions may have been misguided by Love alone without the sense of Wisdom.
Seems classic green level.
And, even with millions of years of evolution in consciousness beyond 3D, they would lack sufficient wisdom for what seems like an obvious ethical judgment call. Or perhaps 4D is not capable of (philosophically) more wisdom than 3D, or 3D is capable of more wisdom than 4D.
Maybe this belongs in a different thread. I was unclear about the seven levels of consciousness so went through the books with my highlighter and looked for every mention of them. Then I went over all of that and came up with my version, my words:
The Seven Levels of Consciousness
- Very little consciousness
- Awareness of self
- Awareness of others
- Compassion
- Compassion tempered with wisdom
- Deeply spiritual
- Return to the One
I assigned minerals (i.e. rocks) up to viruses into 1D, plants and animals to 2D (with those that mate for life getting ready to graduate), and people to 3D.
I never presumed to put the higher entities into levels, but from the discussion here it looks like Hatonn would go into 4D, "classic green." I might have guessed Ra as very high 4D, but the Material says they are 5D and I won't disagree (though I'm tempted to put them near the beginner stage).
For what it's worth, I say that the seven levels are nested, many times. For example the first seven years of life are very little awareness, especially the first year. Each subsequent year is another level. These are, then, years zero to six.
7 to 13 are the awareness of self years, when we develop our own identity.
14 to 20 are awareness of others. Usually age 14 corresponds to 9th Grade, and I'll bet you remember how significant that year was. Some girls start acting like little sluts and boys think about gangs. Many in both sexes in these years take team sports very seriously.
Age 21, in my life, was when many of us took up politics in order to make big changes in society. In other word, compassion.
It's been years, but I remember Carla labeling 4th level as "Love," but I think that compassion is not the same as love. After all, Love and Light are the One Infinite. OTOH an example of STO compassion is "Oh, you poor thing, let me help you." An example of STS compassion might be, "Stand on your own two feet! Don't be a whiner!"
Tempering compassion with wisdom might lead to tough love, knowing that just giving handouts can lead to dependence instead of progress. These are 3D concepts applied to 4D because it's all that I have to work with.
I've gone on enough in this thread, sorry, but I wanted to explain why I saw Hatonn as green level.