02-11-2011, 05:01 AM
(02-11-2011, 04:36 AM)Spectrum Wrote: Okay, the only way we are going to make headway with this mystery, that’s assuming we ever solve it, is to start with everything that we agree on, use ‘that’ as a foundation, and build from there.
We have both used the Hebrew bible to come to certain conclusions, me with regard to chronology and Moishe, and you with the scouts Moishe apparently sent out, which I realize now, was mistake number one (I used the Hebrew bible first, so that’s my mistake).
Let’s see what we agree on:
So if the Old Testament (which we have used here to come to conclusions) has an Orion influence, which means there are lies and deception, then neither can the chronology be trusted, nor any events, because neither you nor me knows where the deception lies. All we can agree on is that there is deception.
So, in order to stay safe, we have to strictly stick to Ra’s words as a foundation, and use any outside sources with much caution, be that the Hebrew bible, or any other authors who have theorized about the Anak.
So where does that leave us? It kind puts us at square one. I apologize for my tone, it was definitely unnecessary. I perceived a tone from you in your first post in this thread, which led to my tone.
the unreliability of religious text doesnt come from orion influence. the unreliability mainly comes from human factor. especially for bible. bible was not even a book until a century or so later, and even 200 years later than jeshosuah's death, numerous versions were running about. anyone was writing/contributing to it. in council of nicea in 325 AD, 4 major versions were decided. others were either destroyed, or hidden. naturally the results have been in accordance with what constantine needed.
a similar situation goes for hebrew religious texts too.
however there are few things we can rely on, simple things which are verifiable by historical known facts and situations.
this is why i accept hebrew scout's encounter with anak as valid, and historically correct as in being after/during exodus into caanan :
firstly, if there had been such people before this elsewhere, especially in egypt, they would affect a lot of things, least being the historical chronology. they could be utilized for a lot of tasks. historical chronology would also extensively record and talk about them. even thought they have existed for a short period after/during 1600s and then dispersed, they still made a lot of legends in middle east and levant after that period. had they existed even in caanan for an extended duration of time, more cultures would have contact with them, and they would be reflected in chronologies or legends of these cultures much more clearly and solidly. instead, they just appear in the hebrew culture in such detail.
however, older claims and legends that made into hebrew torah, you cannot trust, in that they are not translations of recent known events like exodus into caanan, but legends and beliefs that were kept since long ago.
in bible it becomes even more problematic in that, a lot of the apostles or their followers or early religious figures have contributed their ideas and biases into the text, not even legends etc, some identifiable by name, some not.