02-17-2021, 10:33 PM
(02-17-2021, 06:52 PM)Minyatur Wrote: Actually I think 6D entities have a very distinct sense of identity. The understanding of the unity of one's self and one's other-selves is native to them, but in terms of direct experience they remain their separate self. While unity sounds like where everything unifies together, I think it is actually the other way around and the focal center of manyness within the Octave. Selfness is instead released only in mid/late seventh density.
Maybe a 6D entity can know the details of its other-selves, but it does not necessarily allow it to shed from itself its own distortions that make it its own unique mind/body/spirit complex.
I based my reply on these quotes, if you want to read them: 36.1 36.8, 36.9, 37.6, 70.1 and 70.11.
Ah ok so Mr Ra defined the release of selfness as "mid/late seventh density" and not "6th density".
Because the only way for the finite to reach the infinite is actually to release / destroy the 'border' that define or identify its 'own self', thus making it finite.
And "Distinct" here doesn't mean "Separation", that's why I'm more comfortable with the definition of "overself" rather than "higher self", thus an 'over self' actually know the details of each individualized consciousness within a finite group of 'mind/body/spirit complex' as it has access to the memory of each of them.
Access to the memory is the 'key things' here, imagine if for example you have access to the memory of an individualized consciousness named Marilyn Monroe thus you are experiencing everything in her life time from her perspective, all of her thoughts and emotion, you then shall cannot help but to identify yourself as her. "I was Marilyn Monroe".
This is how I understand people felt after 'gaining the access' to the memory of other individualized consciousness, thus they call it recalling 'my past lives', as that individual has identified itself as also other 'individual' which in accordance to it's understanding happened in the 'past' in terms of his time dimension.
If the memory of "Marilyn" was recalled by "James" for example. Is it Marilyn reincarnating as James? or James was reincarnated as Marilyn? or "something" is reincarnating as Marilyn and then as James?
And what happened if the memory of "Marilyn" was recalled by "Bob" as well, who are living at the same time as "James"?
Every individualized consciousness actually also has access to their own 'over self', including STS entities.
But since the STS path is based on 'separation', including separation from it's 'over self' thus does not seek to 'access' the guidance from it's own over self.
But an 'over self' has already gone through that path as well, similar path but not exactly the same, thus actually able to offer guidance to it's own 'individualized self' on whichever path that they choose. STO or STS. The over self of any STS has gained the lesson of love and unity as well other wise it will not be driven or able to offer anything, in full sincerity, to it's 'individualized self' which at that moment is threading the path of STS.
I actually derived this understanding mainly from my own personalized experience of 'series of meetings' with my 'over self', and I do believe anyone can have such experience if only they wish it so. The initiation of intent need to come genuinely from the 'individualized self' as the 'over self' will always honor the free will of it's individualized self.
But my experience is also inline with Mr Ra's definition as shown by the quote below.
Quote:36.11 Questioner: These channels would then be opened by meditation, and I am assuming that intense polarization would help in this. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is partially correct. Intense polarization does not necessarily develop, in the mind/body/spirit complex, the will or need to contact the oversoul. Each path of life experience is unique. However, given the polarization, the will is greatly enhanced and vice-versa.
36.12 Questioner: Let me take as an example the one you said was called Himmler. We are assuming from this that his higher self was of sixth density, and it was stated that Himmler had selected the negative path. Would his higher self then dwell in a sixth-density negative type of situation? Could you expand on this concept?
Ra: I am Ra. There are no [negative] beings which have attained the oversoul manifestation, which is the honor/duty of the mind/body/spirit complex totality of late sixth density, as you would term it in your time measurements. These negatively oriented mind/body/spirit complexes have a difficulty which, to our knowledge, has never been overcome, for after fifth-density graduation wisdom is available but must be matched with an equal amount of love. This love/light is very, very difficult to achieve in unity when following the negative path, and during the earlier part of the sixth density, society complexes of the negative orientation will choose to release the potential and leap into the sixth-density positive.
Therefore, the oversoul which makes its understanding available to all who are ready for such aid is towards the positive. However, the free will of the individual is paramount, and any guidance given by the higher self may be seen in either the positive or negative polarity depending upon the choice of a mind/body/spirit complex.
36.13 Questioner: Then using Himmler as an example, was his higher self at the time he was incarnate in the 1940s a sixth-density positively oriented higher self?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.
36.14 Questioner: Was Himmler in any way in contact with his higher self at that time while he was incarnate in the 1940s?
Ra: I am Ra. We remind you that the negative path is one of separation. What is the first separation? The self from the self.
The one known as Himmler did not choose to use its abilities of will and polarization to seek guidance from any source but its conscious drives, self-chosen in the life experience and nourished by previous biases created in other life experiences.