02-11-2011, 05:59 PM
Okay, in relation to my above post about "the sons of God" bible verse, I'm just replying to your bit about it:
Firstly, can you supply some sources for this, I have tried to find something today which supports this statement of yours, but were unsuccessful.
Secondly, even if it were the case, it can't be applied to Judaism, since the Hebrew bible only acknowledges Yahweh as "God", and the Egyptians were polytheists.
Let's only stick to the phrase "Sons of God", since that's the phrase in dispute, and please provide your source.
Source please.
The above links are about Sumerian religion and Sumer, and doesn't provide anything to substantiate your point.
Again, proof that this term of custom was used in Egypt, and secondly, you cannot mix religious customs of different religions, especially monotheism vs polytheism. We are talking about a verse out of the Hebrew bible, and therefore, have to stay as close as possible to Judaism and Jewish beliefs, because we are in dispute about a phrase on which a lot rests.
And then lastly, I'm a little confused here. In your first post of this thread, you said:
The Annunaki theory places the Anak in Sumerian times, which makes it also before Exodus events...
So since Sumerian religion precedes Judaism, I think we have to start looking into whether this was also lifted from another religion by the Hebrew bible, like the Sumerian deluge myth.
Spectrum Wrote:No, this is not true. Can you provide any historical proof that any third density mind/body/spirit complex who were part of the elite, were referred to as “the sons of God”. Only higher density social memory complexes “walking among us” in the flesh, were referred to as “sons of God”, that being Yahweh and Jeshosuah (Jesus), that we know of. Ra explained to us that higher density beings “walking among us” in the physical, were always deified, and that was the damage being caused due to that erroneous distortion complex.
unity100 Wrote:all pharaohs were sons of gods, or particular god, long before the period you are speaking of.
Firstly, can you supply some sources for this, I have tried to find something today which supports this statement of yours, but were unsuccessful.
Secondly, even if it were the case, it can't be applied to Judaism, since the Hebrew bible only acknowledges Yahweh as "God", and the Egyptians were polytheists.
unity100 Wrote:moreover, most of the priest-kings appearing in city states post-neolithic period, were named as prophets, sons of gods, only mediums in between gods and the people.
Let's only stick to the phrase "Sons of God", since that's the phrase in dispute, and please provide your source.
unity100 Wrote:until the separation of the temples and military power in sumer, priest was the king, religious leader, everything of the society. after that point, the military kings have had to again assume the authority through claiming of son of god concept.
Source please.
unity100 Wrote:Yhis bears no relation to Judaism, and the use of the phrase "sons of God".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_religion
sumerian history goes way before that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumer
The above links are about Sumerian religion and Sumer, and doesn't provide anything to substantiate your point.
unity100 Wrote:maybe you are way too immersed in biblical or hebrew knowledge or terminology, and tend to see everything through the eyes of that information or something. however, it is easy to notice that the concept was already there before 1600 bc incident, even if the concept and words 'son of god' was not directly used. (and it was, as in egypt).
Again, proof that this term of custom was used in Egypt, and secondly, you cannot mix religious customs of different religions, especially monotheism vs polytheism. We are talking about a verse out of the Hebrew bible, and therefore, have to stay as close as possible to Judaism and Jewish beliefs, because we are in dispute about a phrase on which a lot rests.
And then lastly, I'm a little confused here. In your first post of this thread, you said:
unity100 Wrote:that walking along refers to the annunaki incident in which the yahweh came to caanan and reproduced with earth entities through normal reproductive means to generate oversized human offspring.
The Annunaki theory places the Anak in Sumerian times, which makes it also before Exodus events...
