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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Spiritual Development & Metaphysical Matters Transition to Fourth Density [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system

    Thread: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system


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    03-01-2021, 02:21 PM (This post was last modified: 03-04-2021, 03:00 PM by jafar.)
    (02-22-2021, 07:40 AM)Patrick Wrote: That is why I believe a UBI would be easy to implement. It does not need to be financed with taxes.

    Well "Taxes" can also be viewed as a mechanism to circulate the money faster.
    It's can functioned as mechanism to suck 'money' from blockage / cul de sac, in order to restart the circulation.
    The value of money is realized if and only if it was being exchanged with something that has real value.
    The faster the money can circulate the more real value it will produce in the process.

    A simplified model.
    We can for example makes both of us a millionaire (read: earning $1 M a year) with only one $100 bill.
    The rule is simple, I massage you for 1 minute and then you pay me $100, then you massage me for 1 minute and then I pay you $100. Do that continuously throughout the year.
    It's the 'service of massage' that creates value and not the money.
    From the 'economic output' perspective, both of us has created $2 M a year by continuously circulating one $100 bill.

    Now let's say due to the some reason I decided to 'withheld' the $100 bill, creating a blockage of continuous exchange of 1 $100 bill, the results will be both of us will earn $0 a year. That's the simplified version of 'economical crisis'.

    And actually another 'root issue' to tackle is related to "individual / group / private ownership", this is actually the issue which resulted in the conflict between European settler and Native American in the first place. Native Americans are bewildered with the concept of "Private Land Ownership", to them the land and any animal or plant on it cannot belong to a human or specific human, as thus it become forbidden for them hunt or graze in that land that belong to somebody else.
    They do however recognize the concept of "Land Appropriation" thus they cannot hunt on specific land because it's sacred and so on, but the concept that a Bison standing on a land become a private property of the owner of that land is confusing for them.

    Nowadays the concept has been extended to an 'idea' as well, thus the concept of 'intellectual property' and 'copyright' was born. Some countries does not whole-heartedly embraced this model, specifically PRC and Russia, that's why copying and 'stealing intellectual property' is justified from their point of view.

    Imagine if Mr Ra demands llresearch to pay a 'royalty fee' for every Law of One book being sold, or for every quote that is cited here on this forum or elsewhere on the internet. Isn't it ridiculous?

    To counter 'copyright' the opposite movement of 'copyleft' was born, GNU / Free Software Foundation started the "Free Software" movement, where Free is Free as in Freedom and not Free as in Free Beer.
    Thanks to such movement this forum can be created with a very low cost, as the software for this forum (MyBB) is a available for "Free", free as in freedom.
    Wikipedia is another derivative product which was based on the some concept, knowledge and information should be freely shared.

    How does the 'economical system' should evolve?
    I personally don't have the right answer, I can only pinpoint the issues of what we have now.
    Perhaps by forming a 'social memory complex' as explained by Mr Ra will drive the evolutive eradication of private property.
    As not only 'property', even something that's viewed at the moment as 'very private' such as 'memory' will eventually being shared.
    It means I know all of your passwords and you all also know all of my passwords.

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    [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Patrick - 02-13-2021, 10:03 AM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Patrick - 02-14-2021, 10:43 AM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Ohr Ein Sof - 02-15-2021, 07:05 AM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by jafar - 02-22-2021, 02:55 AM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by unity100 - 02-14-2021, 10:36 PM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Ohr Ein Sof - 02-15-2021, 07:20 AM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Patrick - 02-22-2021, 07:40 AM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by jafar - 03-01-2021, 02:21 PM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by MrWho - 02-22-2021, 10:06 AM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Dtris - 02-28-2021, 10:09 PM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by mitote - 03-08-2021, 10:51 PM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Patrick - 02-28-2021, 11:33 PM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Dtris - 03-01-2021, 11:53 AM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Patrick - 03-01-2021, 12:28 PM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by flofrog - 03-01-2021, 08:36 PM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by jafar - 03-04-2021, 03:15 PM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by unity100 - 03-07-2021, 08:54 PM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by jafar - 03-09-2021, 08:45 AM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Ymarsakar - 03-09-2021, 07:35 AM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Patrick - 03-09-2021, 07:52 AM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Ymarsakar - 03-09-2021, 03:23 PM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Patrick - 03-09-2021, 05:01 PM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Dtris - 03-14-2021, 12:07 AM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by jafar - 03-16-2021, 12:09 PM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Ymarsakar - 03-17-2021, 06:46 PM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Ymarsakar - 03-10-2021, 08:03 AM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Patrick - 03-10-2021, 08:13 AM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Ymarsakar - 03-10-2021, 09:54 AM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Minyatur - 03-10-2021, 10:50 AM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Patrick - 03-10-2021, 11:21 AM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Ymarsakar - 03-14-2021, 07:02 AM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Patrick - 03-14-2021, 08:36 AM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by unity100 - 03-19-2021, 04:32 PM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by jafar - 03-22-2021, 07:18 AM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Patrick - 03-22-2021, 07:26 AM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by unity100 - 03-23-2021, 11:55 PM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Ymarsakar - 03-27-2021, 10:14 AM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by LeafieGreens - 03-30-2021, 06:26 PM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Ymarsakar - 04-06-2021, 05:18 PM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Doomchief - 05-03-2021, 03:47 PM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Ymarsakar - 05-03-2021, 04:21 PM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Patrick - 05-03-2021, 06:31 PM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Doomchief - 05-13-2021, 03:03 PM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Patrick - 05-13-2021, 03:18 PM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Doomchief - 05-13-2021, 03:40 PM
    RE: Free Will Infringement, what is it? - by Patrick - 02-13-2021, 10:11 AM
    RE: Free Will Infringement, what is it? - by Diana - 02-13-2021, 02:20 PM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Prometheus - 03-26-2021, 10:42 PM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Patrick - 03-27-2021, 08:23 AM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Prometheus - 04-06-2021, 05:15 PM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Patrick - 04-06-2021, 06:59 PM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Ohr Ein Sof - 04-06-2021, 09:13 PM
    RE: [split] Free will infringement and the monetary system - by Patrick - 04-07-2021, 07:56 AM
    RE: Free Will Infringement, what is it? - by confusedseeker - 02-13-2021, 03:29 PM
    RE: Free Will Infringement, what is it? - by confusedseeker - 02-13-2021, 03:36 PM
    RE: Free Will Infringement, what is it? - by Patrick - 02-13-2021, 04:07 PM
    RE: Free Will Infringement, what is it? - by Diana - 02-13-2021, 04:34 PM
    RE: Free Will Infringement, what is it? - by Patrick - 02-13-2021, 04:54 PM
    RE: Free Will Infringement, what is it? - by Diana - 02-13-2021, 05:14 PM
    RE: Free Will Infringement, what is it? - by confusedseeker - 02-13-2021, 06:58 PM
    RE: Free Will Infringement, what is it? - by confusedseeker - 02-14-2021, 07:27 AM
    RE: Free Will Infringement, what is it? - by Ohr Ein Sof - 02-14-2021, 07:51 AM

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