02-17-2011, 09:23 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-17-2011, 09:24 PM by Steppingfeet.)
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Jody wrote in response to my email:
Yes, I too feel the Ra material has less of the channel's personal coloring, though I also feel that the Q'uo material has the coherence and what's called 'internal consistency' that are some of the criteria in assessing scientific accuracy. In other words, I find no inconsistencies in the Q'uo material or between it and the Ra material.
And yes, I've thought about the uses of the term discrete, and also the word 'steps' in the material to describe transition between densities, and I think it's a question of whether 'discrete' means completely so or whether that is a matter of degree. That's why I like my light through a prism interpretation, as that's literally the precisely same phenomenon Ra is describing - the nature of light across densities. And if the term discrete were to be interpreted as completely so, then there would be no blending of yellow-green nor green-yellow to be seen through a prism, and there observably is. So I conclude that the observable physics is the fact, and the interpretation of 'discrete' as completely so is incorrect.
Another point of consideration is that the Ra material is clear that green-ray influence has already begun in earth 3d, and from that I think it can be logically concluded that yellow-ray influence will continue for a time past the transition midpoint for a time into earth 4d. It is not logical that there would be an overlap of rays for a time before transition yet not for a time after. If the interpretation is that the term discrete means completely so, then there would be no green influence before transition into 4d, and Ra is entirely clear that there is.
A related psychological point in the above is that it makes psychological sense that people would prefer to believe the good of 4d is already having an influence and, although the two beliefs are contradictory, it also makes psychological sense that people would prefer to believe the problematic influences of 3d would stop sooner than later.
In other words, there cannot be an overlap before transition without an overlap after transition, but it's a psychological trait to hold contradictory beliefs when that makes us feel better, even when they are mutually exclusive. It's just wishful thinking, a newage version of the Christian rapture.
But you can see why people holding onto that pleasant belief would not react well to the prospect of more difficult work ahead. That quality of seeking to avoid hard work is another suspect point in that belief. In life, if there are two possibilities, one with hard work and the other without hard work, the first is the more likely! That's not cynical, just realistic and responsible. If we seek to be examples, it serves others better if we recommend they continue planting and expect and prepare for difficult work ahead, rather than giving out the message that all will be beamed up. That's where I feel very strongly that the ascension message is enormously irresponsible and does great harm. It's an understandable but pathological earth 3d psychological reaction on the part of wanderers who are traumatized by their earth 3d experience and simply want out themselves, so succumb to fantasy and wishful, 'magical' thinking.
Another related point of corroboration is that the Ra material says that there are already those being born into combination 3/4d bodies, and that those in wholly 4d bodies will be subsequently born through the normal means of sexual reproduction over a few generations. Awfully human, but all the more reliably believable for that.
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Jody wrote in response to my email:
Yes, I too feel the Ra material has less of the channel's personal coloring, though I also feel that the Q'uo material has the coherence and what's called 'internal consistency' that are some of the criteria in assessing scientific accuracy. In other words, I find no inconsistencies in the Q'uo material or between it and the Ra material.
And yes, I've thought about the uses of the term discrete, and also the word 'steps' in the material to describe transition between densities, and I think it's a question of whether 'discrete' means completely so or whether that is a matter of degree. That's why I like my light through a prism interpretation, as that's literally the precisely same phenomenon Ra is describing - the nature of light across densities. And if the term discrete were to be interpreted as completely so, then there would be no blending of yellow-green nor green-yellow to be seen through a prism, and there observably is. So I conclude that the observable physics is the fact, and the interpretation of 'discrete' as completely so is incorrect.
Another point of consideration is that the Ra material is clear that green-ray influence has already begun in earth 3d, and from that I think it can be logically concluded that yellow-ray influence will continue for a time past the transition midpoint for a time into earth 4d. It is not logical that there would be an overlap of rays for a time before transition yet not for a time after. If the interpretation is that the term discrete means completely so, then there would be no green influence before transition into 4d, and Ra is entirely clear that there is.
A related psychological point in the above is that it makes psychological sense that people would prefer to believe the good of 4d is already having an influence and, although the two beliefs are contradictory, it also makes psychological sense that people would prefer to believe the problematic influences of 3d would stop sooner than later.
In other words, there cannot be an overlap before transition without an overlap after transition, but it's a psychological trait to hold contradictory beliefs when that makes us feel better, even when they are mutually exclusive. It's just wishful thinking, a newage version of the Christian rapture.
But you can see why people holding onto that pleasant belief would not react well to the prospect of more difficult work ahead. That quality of seeking to avoid hard work is another suspect point in that belief. In life, if there are two possibilities, one with hard work and the other without hard work, the first is the more likely! That's not cynical, just realistic and responsible. If we seek to be examples, it serves others better if we recommend they continue planting and expect and prepare for difficult work ahead, rather than giving out the message that all will be beamed up. That's where I feel very strongly that the ascension message is enormously irresponsible and does great harm. It's an understandable but pathological earth 3d psychological reaction on the part of wanderers who are traumatized by their earth 3d experience and simply want out themselves, so succumb to fantasy and wishful, 'magical' thinking.
Another related point of corroboration is that the Ra material says that there are already those being born into combination 3/4d bodies, and that those in wholly 4d bodies will be subsequently born through the normal means of sexual reproduction over a few generations. Awfully human, but all the more reliably believable for that.
Explanation by the tongue makes most things clear, but love unexplained is clearer. - Rumi