3D to 4D: Sudden or Gradual? A great read...(David Wilcock interview)

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Scott wrote: Although I must confess I'm in the 'instantaneous camp', I can't say for sure my belief is correct, and I'm quite open to both sides...

Borrowing from a limited understanding of quantum physics and the process of spiritual initiation, I believe there is long-term gradual energetic (i.e., photonic) upgrade towards true color green vibration, followed by immediate, discontinuous quantum leap (into true color green, albeit with subtle overtones of 3D remaining). As electrons spinning around nuclei are charged from an external source, they gradually undergo energetic intensification/upgrade followed by rapid jump to a 'higher orbital shell' level -- so does the initiate (individual, or planetary-Logoic) experience slow consciousness growth followed by rapid expansion to greater awareness. Gradualism precedes instantaneous transformation in both cases.

Your point, Jody, that "there cannot be an overlap before transition without an overlap after transition" is brilliant I think -- but the nature of "overlap" doesn't necessarily assume continuing 3D body (or soul-consciousness level) beings post-harvest. Just as an initiate retains mind patterns post-initiation, yet is forever and irrevocably changed, and just as a Buddhist adept still retains (diminishing) degrees of ignorance after the first 3 of the 4 levels of enlightenment (stream-entrant, once-returner, non-returner) -- likewise, I assume 4D+ collective humanity will deal with lingering 3D-cycle thought-patterns in the early centuries of the 4D cycle. I believe that this is the nature of the vibratory/consciousness overlap that will occur post-harvest.

I fully admit and acknowledge the psychodynamics of favoring the 'instantaneous ascension' model; like most 6D old-timers, I'm happy for homecoming ASAP. However, 'gradualism' also has it's comforting psychodynamics (no mass die-off, all children live long lives, no big change in my lifetime, etc.). But regardless -- the assessment of the veracity of metaphysical concepts is independent from the degree of psychological comfort derived therefrom.

The real matter, to me, is reconciling Ra's statements in Session 6 (affirming post-2011 (appx.) Earth "will be a fourth-density planet") -- and its consequences -- versus those they made in Session 40 (affirming "100 and 700 of your years as transition period"):

6.16 Questioner: What is the position of this planet with respect to the progression of cycles at this time?

Ra: I am Ra. This sphere is at this time in fourth-dimension vibration. Its material is quite confused due to the society memory complexes embedded in its consciousness. It has not made an easy transition to the vibrations which beckon. Therefore, it will be fetched with some inconvenience.

6.17 Questioner: Is this inconvenience imminent within a few years?

Ra: I am Ra. This inconvenience, or disharmonious vibratory complex, has begun several of your years in the past. It shall continue unabated for a period of approximately 30, thirty, of your years.

6.18 Questioner: After this period of thirty years I am assuming that this will be a fourth-density planet. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is so.

40.8 Questioner: Then what will be the time of transition on this planet from third to fourth-density?

Ra: I am Ra. This is difficult to estimate due to the uncharacteristic anomalies of this transition. There are at this space/time nexus beings incarnate which have begun fourth-density work... At this particular nexus the possibility/probability vortices indicate somewhere between 100 and 700 of your years as transition period. This cannot be accurate due to the volatility of your peoples at this space/time.

The following statements are made:

1) Planet Earth is now in 4D vibratory range, although the majority of humanity is not.

2) Earth changes ("inconvenience") will end in approximately 2011 ("approximately 30 of your years" from 1/24/81 Session 6 date).

3) After Earth changes cessation, in approximately post-2011, Earth "will be a 4D planet."

4) Some entities here have already "begun 4D work" (i.e., the "double-bodied" 4D wanderers).

5) The "transition period" will be 100-700 years.

17.29 Questioner: Am I to understand that the harvest is to occur in the year 2011, or will it be spread out?

Ra: I am Ra. This is an approximation. We have stated we have difficulty with your time/space. This is an appropriate probable/possible time/space nexus for harvest.

6) "Harvest is to occur in the year 2011" (as an "approximation") -- NOT spread out over 100-700 years. Therefore, "Harvest" is a discrete event, different from the 100-700 year transition; if it were a multi-century event, Ra wouldn't affirm Don's date in the way they did.

17.1 Ra: There will also be a sharp increase in the short run of negatively oriented or polarized mind/body/spirit complexes and social complexes, due to the polarizing conditions of the sharp delineation between fourth-density characteristics and third-density self-service orientation.

7) Only "in the short run" will there be increase in "negatively oriented or polarizing" entities and groups -- implying, no more negatively polarized activity in 3D post-Harvest ("the short run"). This could fit into either 'instantaneous ascension" or a multi-century 3D/4D social blend, in which no negatively oriented souls reincarnate. But again, it does support the notion of "Harvest" as a discrete event.
63.13 Ra: I am Ra. These entities are those incarnating with what you may call a double body in activation... This transitional body is one which will be, shall we say, able to appreciate fourth-density vibratory complexes as the instreaming increases without the accompanying disruption of the third-density body. If a third-density entity were, shall we say, electrically aware of fourth-density in full, the third-density electrical fields would fail due to incompatibility.

8) As "3D electrical fields would fail" if a "3D entity were...electrically aware of 4D in full," there CANNOT be 3D bodies existing in a 4D field. However, as in point #4 (some entities here already "begun 4D work" and "the sphere at this time in 4D vibration"), there CAN be 3D souls in 3D bodies alongside 4D work occurring, while Earth is already in 4D vibration -- the notion of "discrete' doesn't apply here.

However, there WILL come a time post-Harvest when the entire 3D plane (i.e., vibratory conditions supporting 3D-body existence), is vacated:

63.8 Ra: I am Ra... As the green-ray cycle or the density of love and understanding begins to take shape the yellow-ray plane or Earth which you now enjoy in your dance will cease to be inhabited for some period of your space/time as the space/time necessary for fourth-density entities to learn their ability to shield their density from that of third is learned. After this period there will come a time when third-density may again cycle on the yellow-ray sphere.

9) Therefore, the "yellow-ray" or 3D plane "will cease to be inhabited" for some time as the harvested 4D entities "learn their ability to shield their density from that of third" (after which, they'll return and a new 3D cycle begun).

That's all well and good, but it's very hard for me to imagine this period of 3D non-inhabitation starting AFTER 100-700 more years of 3D/4D transition. Frankly, I believe the upcoming 100-700 years' transition IS the period during which yellow-ray/3D plane will "cease to be inhabited" -- with the term "transition" referring to the time needed for 4D+ newcomers to "learn their ability to shield their density from that of third." After that, Earth enters true color green and another 3D cycle resumes.

While I can recognize how the 4D plane already co-exists (invisibly) along with the 3D plane (in space/time, of visible bodies), how metaphysical work is already being done 'there' (or rather, 'here' on multi-dimensional Earth) -- I have a hard time grasping how Harvest (being a discrete event pegged to ~2011) leads to 700 years of combined 3D/4D-form co-existence, BEFORE the cessation of inhabitation of the 3D sphere.

Furthermore, I read Harvest as equivalent to the "three-way split," viz:

63.9 Questioner: At present we have, in third-density incarnation on this plane, those third-density entities of the planet Earth who have been here for some number of incarnations who will graduate in the three-way split, either positive polarity remaining for fourth-density experience on this planet, the negative polarity harvestable going to another planet, and the rest unharvestable third-density going to another third-density planet. In addition to these entities I am assuming that we have here some entities already harvestable from other third-density planets who have come here and have incarnated in third-density form to make the transition with this planet into fourth-density, plus Wanderers. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct except we may note a small point. The positively oriented harvested entities will remain in this planetary influence but not upon this plane.

The 'gradualist' interpretation of 100-700 years, seems to me, to require postponement of the "three-way split" for up to 700 years, post-Harvest (which is, to me, clearly a discrete event). Although 3D-bodies can indeed co-exist with the 4D developing sphere and concurrent 4D working (both now before true-color green, and after 4D entities learn dimensional shielding) -- if Harvest really is a three-way split, then non-harvestable souls must go to another 3D planet, while only 4D+ souls remain on Earth.

Frankly, I rest on this passage and the discussion of 3D non-inhabitation:

6.18 Questioner: After this period of thirty years I am assuming that this will be a fourth-density planet. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is so.

The gradualists must explain how post-2011 Harvest (approximately, yet a discrete event), after which Earth becomes a 4D planet -- 3D souls continue to re-incarnate during the 100-700 years of 4D transition (!). Harvest completed, 4D begun (albeit not yet true-color green) -- but no 3-way spit and no 3D-plane non-inhabitation -- yet instead, centuries more of human civilization blending non-harvestable 3D+ entities, harvested 4D+ souls, and double-bodied newcomers, and then the 3-way split and 3D-plane non-inhabitation??

While I totally agree with all your practical considerations of self-sufficiency and preparedness, Jody -- I do read Ra as stating post-2011 Harvest as the inception of the 3-way split and non-inhabitation of the 3D-plane. It strains my imagination to consider that those post-Harvest events will be delayed for another 100-700 years. To me, the discrete event of Harvest = instantaneous transformation (photonic trans-substantiation) and the cessation of inhabitation of the yellow-ray plane. However, I'd say this will occur before the end of 2014, not 12/21/2012.

If you read to this point, thanks for your patience, and I hope it's been worth the read.