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    05-21-2009, 05:09 PM
    (05-20-2009, 10:31 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:
    (05-20-2009, 08:25 PM)Ali Quadir Wrote: I am not you, you are not me.

    Ra: I am Ra. We communicate now. We are those who are of the Law of One. In our vibration the polarities are harmonized; the complexities are simplified; the paradoxes have a solution. We are one. That is our nature and our purpose.
    Exercise Two. The universe is one being.[/i]

    It seems that we are both separate and ONE. A paradox? Ra stated that paradoxes have solutions.
    Exactly, a paradox. I did not get this until I read it in the hitchhikers guide. It's ridiculous but true. And yet another clear warning that guidance comes from strange places.

    You cannot see what I see because you see what you see. You cannot know what I know because you know what you know. Anything you see or hear or experience in any way at all is specific to you. You create a universe by perceiving it so everything in that universe is specific to you. (Old man sitting on top of a pole. Hitch hikers guide to the galaxy by Douglas Adams)

    Movement across the boundaries is discrete. There is no discreet phase shift between you and me. The IAM which creates this universe by perception exists outside of this universe. All discrete universes that are born from IAM's act of perception/creation are completely separated. This is the multiverse M String theory refers to. However the consequences are not fully understood. There are an infinite number of them each of them is fully separate and connected only through the IAM. When Ra states we are one, he is fully correct. There is only one. One IAM. However it manifests in infinite complexity seeking forever for an answer to a question we cannot even comprehend.


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    (05-20-2009, 08:25 PM)Ali Quadir Wrote: A discreet universe on all levels would be impossible in my opinion because there could be no polarity like there could be no position if there were not a point where the differences become discrete.

    Perhaps the differences are discrete, and the similarities discreet...? Could either term be used to describe the whole? I think not. I think any word can be used to describe only an aspect of the UniVerse, not the whole.
    Like I said before, discreet is the illusion that happens when the discrete steps are too small for us to perceive.

    If we move an object from a to b, then each of the discrete steps is fully separated from the others. The object in A is not the Object in B. Neither is any of the objects in the in between places identical to any of the other objects. Each of these objects has identity and unique relation to the universe. The illusion of discreet movement is caused by the mind.

    Quote:I actually agree with you that discrete was more likely Ra's intended word in that context (unless, of course, the multi-layered nuance of meaning was intentional, for the purpose of getting us to think and to delve ever deeper). But, I've already attempted to clarify that it didn't change my point regarding the validity of multiple interpretations, so I will leave it at that.
    and I accept your choice to do so. Smile Our understanding is limited. My understanding as an incarnated human is necessarily limited. And in spite of correctness our understanding serves a more important function, as a guide. If you instinctively feel your interpretation to be correct. Then that interpretation regardless of accuracy in this case (It's different when we talk about the road from Paris to Rome) is important. You must not replace an interpretation that can guide you by an interpretation that is unable to guide you. No matter how hard uncle ali believes in it...

    Quote:Ra: I am Ra. This is a statement we cannot say to be correct or incorrect due to the confusions of what you call time. True simultaneity is available only when all things are seen to be occurring at once. This overshadows the concept of which you speak. The concept of various parts of the being living experiences of varying natures simultaneously is not precisely accurate due to your understanding that this would indicate that this was occurring with true simultaneity. This is not the case.
    Basically Ra says you cannot judge time from within time.

    Quote:The case is from universe to universe and parallel existences can then be programmed by the Higher Self, given the information available from the mind/body/spirit complex totality regarding the probability/possibility vortices at any crux.[/i]
    Exactly. Higher self or IAM I do not know how this works if we step it up to 4d. I speak about absolutes. Because I am a 3d entity I cannot see how this differs in 4d. Ra uses different words I dare not say he means the same.



    Quote:Now, aside from that, imo remote, possibility, what happens if we don't all harmonize in one fine strong moment of inspiration? We then move to Plan B, also described by Ra in the above quote: the remainder being even more significantly polarized, the third cycle culminating the process and the harvest being completed.
    Basically youre assuming that harmonization equals harvest. I do not think this is the case. Harmonization precedes harvest. And only those harmonized can be harvested to 4d the rest is "harvested" to 3d. The harvest nexus is at a specific point in time those ready before that time have to wait or in rare cases harvest themselves.


    I do not believe we have an argument here. I don't see the need for harmonization before the harvest nexus meaning that harvest nexus comes no matter what. However harmonization will greatly affect the outcome for the individual. I am uncertain about where I picked that up but I do not believe the Ra quotes you give contradict this.

    I have said it before but there is no harm in saying it again. I owe David a great debt of understanding. His work showed me so much.

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