Are those who don't honor logic deceitful egomaniacs?

[jafar]

Logic requires a reference where it can be based upon.
Thus shared logic requires a shared/common reference where it can be based upon.

Logic is applicable to deduce anything within a shared reality or a shared context or a shared experience.

Q:Is there any soap in the toilet?
A:Let me check, yes there is, if you don't believe me go to the toilet yourself and check it out.

And 'logically' it make sense, as usually there's a soap in the toilet.

It might be thrown out the window once..
Q: No, I Mean the toilet in the Call Of Duty universe.
A: I'm sorry I don't play Call Of Duty, so I don't know. You better ask those who also play Call Of Duty or check it out yourself within Call Of Duty.

Or..
Q: No I mean the toilet in the house within my dream universe.
Q: No I mean the toilet in the house within the astral plane..
Q: No I mean the toilet in time/space universe..
etc..

Many of 'spiritual experience' are subjective and personal by nature.
Thus no 'shared context' or 'shared experience' that can be used as 'common ground'.
As it truly depend on the perspective of those who experienced it or those who observed it.

Having said that it's still logical to say both the alternative are true, the soap exist in the toilet and the soap does not exist in the toilet. As it depends on the context.

A reference to similar discussion happening in Quantum Mechanics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_cat

While my personal experience on discussing with both Theist or Atheist is.
They're debating about 'something' which they don't have same definition about (ie; the word "God"), let alone the same shared context. Yet it's still logical to say both theist and atheist are true or both theist and atheist are false.