02-24-2011, 04:40 PM
(02-24-2011, 09:38 AM)Confused Wrote:(02-24-2011, 07:38 AM)cosmicgiant Wrote:(02-23-2011, 06:50 PM)Confused Wrote:(02-23-2011, 02:53 PM)cosmicgiant Wrote: ...no Big Bang required...
Hi Ryan,
Thanks for the post. Is it possible for you to explain why the model negates the need for the 'Big Bang'? Just made me curious when I read that bit.
Hi Confused,
Well the way I see it, if we accept that everything we see is 'made' out of truth then we should also acknowledge that truth doesn't really need 'time' to 'expand'. It might take us time to draw a diagram of expanded truth, but that which we are drawing essentially permanently exists since it is a purely theoretical (for lack of a better word) construct/object.
This model would support the idea of a Universe that has always existed. We could also see how time would be an illusion of sorts in this model. Our experience of time, as individual entities, could merely be God/truth looking at itself and saying, "well I could see myself like this, or like this, or like this...". Another way of thinking of it would be like truth looking at itself and noting that "truth x eqauls truth y, which is also equal to truth z, which is also equal to truth 'x equals y'..."
So these activities of truth/God looking at itself create the illusion of time or movement, but one can also see how such 'activity' doesn't really need to 'occur' as such, or rather truth exists in such a way that all such 'activities' are permanently occurring.
I hope this sort of makes sense.
Cheers,
Ryan
Only one word, WOW!!! Your reasoning reminds me of another forum member, whose logic I greatly value. It would be nice if you can still articulate what you have said in more lay terms. I confess that my first language is not English. Thanks, Ryan.
Well, think of this aspect, truth doesn't start existing, it always exists. In other words, unlike physical objects that we see around us, concepts/ideas essentially permanently exist. I don't really have to think of a square before it can exist in concept form in 'hyperspace', at least that's what I personally think.
Further, "1 = 1" doesn't have to start 'becoming' equal to "2 = 2", because a truth (T) is always equal to a truth, i.e. "T = T". So truth, being all that exists in our Universe, exists permanently (it has no beginning or "Big Bang") and, thus, the Universe exists permanently and needs no "Big Bang" of any kind.
On a side note, I also think that since God is essentially Truth itself, and Truth itself is all that exists, and we must surely be 'truths' of some sort in order for us to exist, then we are 'equivalent' to God. So we might appear unique and less dense due to our current frame of reference or perspective when compared to 'God' / The Entire Universe, but any truth has just as much 'potential' within it (potential to be infinitely 'expanded' itself and expressed in terms of an infinite number of other truths) as any other truth or even truth itself (one and the same thing). So we essentially have the 'power' of God/creation within us.
Further, the more intelligent or logical we are or behave, the closer we are 'aligning' ourselves with God, since God/truth essentially 'operates' via logic.
Cheers,
Ryan