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    Thread: Worship?


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    11-30-2021, 08:32 PM (This post was last modified: 11-30-2021, 08:34 PM by MonadicSpectrum.)
    (11-29-2021, 03:10 PM)Diana Wrote: Well, I was discussing it. Tongue Seriously though, religions are not just the "past" they are very present and part of this current reality and mass consciousness. Which is part of my point—the word "worship" still carries a religious signature in a very real sense. 

    I absolutely admit to strong biases against religions. I personally think that religions may have had a purpose in humanity's past, but they have long outgrown their usefulness. What I think is needed is for humans to makes choices for themselves in general, and not rely on outside sources to tell them what to do. But this is just me looking at the situation and seeing it the way I see it. Maybe you are right in that I am creating for myself this problem with the word "worship," and I do not discount this possibility, but I also think there is a mass-consciousness signature that is there no matter what I think. For individuals such as Wanderers, for example, would it not be accurate to say that they incarnate here and many find themselves "swimming against the current"? This does imply that there is a current, and I for one am not advanced enough to be immune to it entirely while in this vicinity.

    Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this topic. I agree that it is best for each individual to seek to make choices for themselves. However, I have found that this may be easy to say for those who are born with a certain level of intelligence or capability, but I've also met people who genuinely struggle to understand reality and make effective choices. They often find that following leaders or group consensus is a better approximation of the right choice rather than following their own understanding. Unfortunately, this makes them easy targets for manipulation, but I can understand how such a system makes sense if one struggles to understand reality.

    For these kinds of people, I could see it as making sense for building a simplified system of knowledge and reasoning that could be formulated as a religion for providing guidance on decision making and behavior for those who don't know how to determine that individually. For example, understanding densities, polarities, and harvests is non-trivial without extensive study and spiritual exploration to validate the truth of these ideas. Breaking it down into terms such as God, sin, forgiveness, faith, heaven, and hell can be easier approximations to understand and just as effective at guiding one to polarize positively enough for harvest. It is not necessary to have knowledge of unity or the Law of One for harvest, and I believe harvest is the main goal of any entity incarnating in third density and often a more realistic goal than becoming an adept or learning the whole truth and nothing but the truth. We can also leverage existing belief systems to help others polarize in the direction of their choice without appearing as a 'threat' to their sacred beliefs by accepting the parts of their beliefs that contain abstract truths. For example, I identify as a Mystical Christian and encourage other Christians to go vegan because factory farming is harming God's creatures, and most Christians agree because they believe that it is our responsibility to be good stewards of the Earth and protect all of the creatures and environment.

    All that said, I agree most religions become less effective when they claim supreme correctness and eternal damnation for anyone who disagrees with their theology or dismissing any idea that contradicts sacred scripture. They also become less effective when people use the religion for purposes of control rather than guidance. But my main point is not to throw the baby out with the bathwater because I believe it is possible to use religion to help people especially those who have less capability to understand reality or who are 'married' to their particular religious distortions.

    Are these thoughts helpful for your consideration? I'd appreciate to hear your thoughts in response if it is your desire to share them.

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    Worship? - by IndigoSalvia - 11-27-2021, 10:39 AM
    RE: Worship? - by Diana - 11-27-2021, 12:18 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Serveou - 11-27-2021, 03:22 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Sacred Fool - 11-27-2021, 04:10 PM
    RE: Worship? - by IndigoSalvia - 11-28-2021, 11:31 AM
    RE: Worship? - by Diana - 11-28-2021, 12:04 PM
    RE: Worship? - by IndigoSalvia - 11-28-2021, 03:38 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Sacred Fool - 11-29-2021, 12:55 AM
    RE: Worship? - by Diana - 11-29-2021, 03:10 PM
    RE: Worship? - by MonadicSpectrum - 11-30-2021, 08:32 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Diana - 12-05-2021, 11:52 AM
    RE: Worship? - by IndigoSalvia - 12-05-2021, 01:18 PM
    RE: Worship? - by flofrog - 11-28-2021, 12:23 AM
    RE: Worship? - by MonadicSpectrum - 11-28-2021, 01:17 AM
    RE: Worship? - by IndigoSalvia - 11-28-2021, 12:05 PM
    RE: Worship? - by jafar - 11-28-2021, 01:58 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Cannon - 11-28-2021, 06:47 PM
    RE: Worship? - by IndigoSalvia - 11-28-2021, 11:31 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Dtris - 11-29-2021, 10:57 AM
    RE: Worship? - by jafar - 11-29-2021, 12:42 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Sacred Fool - 11-29-2021, 05:04 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Diana - 11-29-2021, 06:29 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Sacred Fool - 11-29-2021, 10:00 PM
    RE: Worship? - by IndigoSalvia - 11-29-2021, 11:58 PM
    RE: Worship? - by jafar - 11-30-2021, 01:35 AM
    RE: Worship? - by Sacred Fool - 11-30-2021, 02:43 AM
    RE: Worship? - by jafar - 11-30-2021, 03:51 AM
    RE: Worship? - by Sacred Fool - 11-30-2021, 12:51 PM
    RE: Worship? - by jafar - 11-30-2021, 10:12 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Steppingfeet - 11-30-2021, 12:13 AM
    RE: Worship? - by IndigoSalvia - 11-30-2021, 12:58 PM
    RE: Worship? - by IndigoSalvia - 12-03-2021, 12:56 PM
    RE: Worship? - by MonadicSpectrum - 12-03-2021, 07:30 PM
    RE: Worship? - by IndigoSalvia - 12-03-2021, 09:50 PM
    RE: Worship? - by MonadicSpectrum - 12-05-2021, 09:42 PM
    RE: Worship? - by jafar - 12-05-2021, 09:56 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Diana - 12-06-2021, 10:38 AM
    RE: Worship? - by Sacred Fool - 12-06-2021, 05:43 PM
    RE: Worship? - by jafar - 12-06-2021, 07:46 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Diana - 12-07-2021, 10:48 AM
    RE: Worship? - by IndigoSalvia - 12-07-2021, 01:46 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Diana - 12-07-2021, 03:49 PM
    RE: Worship? - by MonadicSpectrum - 12-07-2021, 10:54 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Diana - 12-08-2021, 11:45 AM
    RE: Worship? - by MonadicSpectrum - 12-08-2021, 02:22 PM
    RE: Worship? - by IndigoSalvia - 12-08-2021, 03:22 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Sacred Fool - 12-07-2021, 11:47 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Sacred Fool - 12-08-2021, 11:52 AM
    RE: Worship? - by IndigoSalvia - 12-07-2021, 11:28 AM
    RE: Worship? - by jafar - 12-08-2021, 02:00 AM
    RE: Worship? - by Diana - 12-08-2021, 11:16 AM
    RE: Worship? - by flofrog - 12-08-2021, 06:30 PM
    RE: Worship? - by MonadicSpectrum - 12-08-2021, 08:31 PM
    RE: Worship? - by flofrog - 12-09-2021, 01:32 AM
    RE: Worship? - by Sacred Fool - 12-09-2021, 02:13 AM
    RE: Worship? - by Diana - 12-09-2021, 11:12 AM
    RE: Worship? - by Sacred Fool - 12-09-2021, 02:52 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Diana - 12-09-2021, 03:24 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Sacred Fool - 12-09-2021, 04:04 PM
    RE: Worship? - by IndigoSalvia - 12-09-2021, 03:57 PM
    RE: Worship? - by IndigoSalvia - 12-09-2021, 01:52 AM
    RE: Worship? - by flofrog - 12-09-2021, 02:09 AM
    RE: Worship? - by jafar - 12-08-2021, 08:10 PM
    RE: Worship? - by jafar - 12-09-2021, 11:15 PM
    RE: Worship? - by MonadicSpectrum - 12-10-2021, 12:56 AM
    RE: Worship? - by Sacred Fool - 12-10-2021, 01:24 AM
    RE: Worship? - by jafar - 12-10-2021, 03:39 AM
    RE: Worship? - by MonadicSpectrum - 12-10-2021, 04:03 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Diana - 12-10-2021, 12:24 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Sacred Fool - 12-10-2021, 03:55 PM
    RE: Worship? - by jafar - 12-10-2021, 08:50 PM
    RE: Worship? - by MonadicSpectrum - 12-10-2021, 09:53 PM
    RE: Worship? - by jafar - 12-13-2021, 10:54 PM
    RE: Worship? - by MonadicSpectrum - 12-14-2021, 12:13 AM
    RE: Worship? - by jafar - 12-14-2021, 02:47 AM
    RE: Worship? - by tadeus - 12-15-2021, 09:41 AM
    RE: Worship? - by IndigoSalvia - 12-15-2021, 12:58 PM
    RE: Worship? - by flofrog - 12-15-2021, 05:31 PM
    RE: Worship? - by jafar - 12-18-2021, 08:20 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Patrick - 12-18-2021, 10:15 PM
    RE: Worship? - by tadeus - 12-19-2021, 05:08 AM
    RE: Worship? - by jafar - 12-21-2021, 08:00 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Patrick - 12-21-2021, 09:43 PM
    RE: Worship? - by Sacred Fool - 12-22-2021, 01:36 PM

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