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    Thread: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations


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    06-26-2022, 11:19 PM (This post was last modified: 06-26-2022, 11:26 PM by Spiritualchaos.)
    (06-26-2022, 08:30 PM)zedro Wrote: Two thoughts come to mind. First, the complexity and nuance of spiritual experience can be very difficult to share or communicate, I find myself sometimes unable to summarize my experiences in a truly complete and thought out way, or at least in a way that would would tangible or teachable. But this goes into the 2nd thought, it is difficult to do so when one is still engaged in their own seeking/learning, and if one tries to pivot too hard into being the teacher, it may impede their own seeking as they start to look outward. Perhaps this is what you are observing.

    Third thought from the above: perhaps calling them teachers or gurus is not accurate or appropriate, as I believe the main spiritual driver at this juncture is to be a messenger for awakening, and perhaps give a little orientation material and send people on their way. In other words, why put so much stock in these 'teachers'? They have probably already fulfilled their role with you awhile ago, although there is always more to learn from the meta-analysis you are pursuing now. And if the bother is worrying how they can mislead others, well that is part of everyone's path, to learn discernment.

    I am observing teachers who are relying too heavily on logical teachings and are not coming to a nice masculine/feminine, or love/light balance instead, basically giving people the wisdom to learn but not that emotions to properly handle it. Teaching only logically is why our traditional education system is so f***** up.

    Yes I am aware it can be difficult and there can be a bit of an art to doing it effectively, but I do believe it is possible, but you have to engage with the emotional/feminine principles of experience in order to share. You really have to tap into a deep place in your heart in order to find the right way to explain, but until we have telepathy, words are (annoyingly) all we have. We can try our best, because it's a lot better than not trying at all. In order to form a social memory complex, we need to be comfortable being completely transparent with those around us, and it has to start somewhere.

    They call themselves teachers or gurus. *Insert eye-roll here* This is part of the problem, they have over-glorified their own role by giving themselves these titles.

    Some have teacher-like qualities, but they are just regular people who believe they have some understanding that could be shared with others. But to be fair, what they are teaching is pretty much what anyone can learn with a little time and some dedication.

    All I am feeling is love and compassion for the ones who aren't in the place to be able to discern better yet, and I think these "teacher/guru's" have a responsibility to not be misleading. I personally have not learned anything new from these people in a very, very long time, as my concern is for those who are not spiritually adept at this time and may be easily misled because this is all so very new for them.

    Also seeing it happen to someone I know very deeply is hard to watch, regardless of the purpose he chose this path for this particular incarnation. Someone who came here to spread the love and the light is getting caught up in the web of spiritual manipulation that is also happening to so many seekers who are calling for help at this time. Watching that happen to someone you love is frustrating to watch and even more heartbreaking to see them disconnect themselves further from those who are relying on them for spiritual growth.

    Why is it the default of this planet to just let people fall, when you can at least point out the obstacles in their way to help them see the path better? If they need to trip and fall because that is the only way they'll learn, then I respect that. But I'm still going to point out the obstacles, and if they still trip and fall, then maybe that is exactly what they needed, but I'm not going to stick out my foot and trip them either because I think that is what they need in order to learn the lesson properly.

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    New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by Spiritualchaos - 06-23-2022, 01:30 PM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by tadeus - 06-23-2022, 03:05 PM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by Spiritualchaos - 06-23-2022, 03:42 PM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by tadeus - 06-24-2022, 03:39 AM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by Spiritualchaos - 06-24-2022, 01:14 PM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by tadeus - 06-25-2022, 03:42 AM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by Spiritualchaos - 06-25-2022, 11:29 AM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by tadeus - 06-25-2022, 12:15 PM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by Spiritualchaos - 06-25-2022, 09:01 PM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by tadeus - 06-26-2022, 03:51 AM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by Spiritualchaos - 06-26-2022, 07:23 PM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by tadeus - 06-27-2022, 07:38 AM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by unity100 - 06-25-2022, 11:43 AM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by tadeus - 06-26-2022, 09:14 AM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by kilaya - 06-26-2022, 09:52 AM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by Spiritualchaos - 06-26-2022, 07:05 PM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by tadeus - 06-27-2022, 07:25 AM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by Spiritualchaos - 06-27-2022, 08:16 AM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by tadeus - 06-28-2022, 03:29 AM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by Spiritualchaos - 06-28-2022, 07:48 AM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by Sacred Fool - 06-28-2022, 11:12 AM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by tadeus - 06-29-2022, 05:34 AM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by Spiritualchaos - 07-19-2022, 01:34 AM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by tadeus - 07-19-2022, 03:53 AM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by Diana - 06-28-2022, 12:42 PM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by Sacred Fool - 06-29-2022, 01:18 AM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by zedro - 06-29-2022, 06:11 AM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by Sacred Fool - 06-29-2022, 08:09 AM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by Diana - 06-29-2022, 11:47 AM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by Sacred Fool - 06-29-2022, 01:05 PM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by tadeus - 06-30-2022, 03:21 AM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by tadeus - 06-29-2022, 05:56 AM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by zedro - 06-26-2022, 11:31 PM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by zedro - 06-29-2022, 12:22 PM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by Sacred Fool - 06-29-2022, 01:14 PM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by LeiwoUnion - 06-29-2022, 02:08 PM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by Sacred Fool - 06-29-2022, 03:13 PM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by tadeus - 06-30-2022, 03:30 AM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by LeiwoUnion - 06-29-2022, 04:26 PM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by Sacred Fool - 06-29-2022, 06:26 PM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by &quot;the stumbled one&quot; - 06-29-2022, 06:32 PM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by LeiwoUnion - 06-30-2022, 01:17 AM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by LeiwoUnion - 07-01-2022, 11:20 AM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by dreamoftheiris - 07-08-2022, 11:07 AM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by zedro - 07-08-2022, 04:22 PM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by dreamoftheiris - 07-08-2022, 06:56 PM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by Phoenix - 07-09-2022, 12:24 PM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by Veszna - 07-17-2022, 02:33 AM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by tadeus - 07-17-2022, 03:31 AM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by LeiwoUnion - 07-19-2022, 06:15 PM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by Spiritualchaos - 07-20-2022, 10:08 AM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by Diana - 07-20-2022, 10:47 AM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by Spiritualchaos - 07-23-2022, 09:06 AM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by Sacred Fool - 07-21-2022, 10:58 AM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by Phoenix - 07-20-2022, 09:18 AM
    RE: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations - by tadeus - 07-20-2022, 01:37 PM

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