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    06-08-2009, 09:47 AM (This post was last modified: 06-08-2009, 02:13 PM by 3D Sunset.)
    (06-08-2009, 01:50 AM)Vince Wrote: Should I continue to have contact with my father?

    What does LOO say?

    Hi Vince,

    You've already received some excellent practical advice from Phoenix and Ali. I'd like to present a slightly different perspective and look at what I feel are a couple of applicable passages from the Law of One, and draw some associated metaphysical advice. Please bear in mind though, that since I am choosing the passages to present, the perspective cannot help but be distorted by my personality.

    Interestingly, I was first drawn to the following passage (note that I will quote the question / answers in their entirety, to maintain the context of the original discussion, which may be slightly different than our context now)

    Ra, Book I, Session 17 Wrote:Questioner: Is it possible by the use of some technique or other to help an entity to reach fourth-density level in these last days?

    Ra: I am Ra. It is impossible to help another being directly. It is only possible to make catalyst available in whatever form, the most important being the radiation of realization of oneness with the Creator from the self, less important being information such as we share with you.

    We, ourselves, do not feel an urgency for this information to be widely disseminated. It is enough that we have made it available to three, four, or five. This is extremely ample reward, for if one of these obtains fourth density understanding due to this catalyst then we shall have fulfilled the
    Law of One in the distortion of service.

    We encourage a dispassionate attempt to share information without concern for numbers or quick growth among others. That you attempt to make this information available is, in your terms, your service. The attempt, if it reaches one, reaches all.

    We cannot offer shortcuts to enlightenment. Enlightenment is, of the moment, an opening to intelligent infinity. It can only be accomplished by the self, for the self. Another self cannot teach/learn enlightenment, but only teach/learn information, inspiration, or a sharing of love, of mystery, of the unknown that makes the other-self reach out and begin the seeking process that ends in a moment, but who can know when an entity will open the gate to the present?

    I think this is both appropriate and fascinating. If we divorce ourselves for a moment from the details of your father's spouse's past (and possibly his own), and ask the crucial questions of the LOO in 3D, then we find here some rather clear direction. At this point in 3D, all should be concerned about graduation to 4D. Graduation is accomplished though polarity, which is gained by processing of catalyst.

    Your position in this arrangement, as an outsider, is to offer aid, in the form of catalyst, to entities attempting to polarize. According to Ra, the catalyst you can best offer is "the radiation of realization of oneness with the Creator from the self". Such radiation can be offered either in person or from a distance. Also remember that your relationship with both your father and his spouse transcend space/time, so one never really cuts off contact with another.

    It should be noted that your father and his significant other may be on the path to polarization toward STS. Your position in this is still the same, radiate your realization of oneness with the Creator from the self. Doing so is a catalyst that will encourage a response from your father.

    The next quote that resonated with me with respect to your question was this:

    Ra, Book I, Session 19 Wrote:Questioner: I will make a statement then of my understanding and ask you if I am correct. There is a, what I would call, physical catalyst operating at all times upon the entities in third density. I assume this operates approximately the same way in second density. It is a catalyst which acts through what we call pain and emotion. Is the primary reason for the weakening of the physical body and the elimination of body hair, etc. so that this catalyst would act more strongly upon the mind and therefore create the evolutionary process?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is not entirely correct, although closely associated with the distortions of our understanding.

    Consider, if you will, the tree for instance. It is self-sufficient. Consider, if you will, the third-density entity. It is self-sufficient only through difficulty and deprivation. It is difficult to learn alone for there is a built-in handicap, at once the great virtue and the great handicap of third density. That is the rational/intuitive mind.

    Thus, the weakening of the physical vehicle, as you call it, was designed to distort entities towards a predisposition to deal with each other. Thus, the lessons which approach a knowing of love can be begun. This catalyst then is shared between peoples as an important part of each self’s development as well as the experiences of the self in solitude and the synthesis of all experience through meditation. The quickest way to learn is to deal with other-selves. This is a much greater catalyst than dealing with the self. Dealing with the self without other-selves is akin to living without what you would call mirrors. Thus, the self cannot see the fruits of its beingness. Thus, each may aid each by reflection. This is also a primary reason for the weakening of the physical vehicle, as you call the physical complex.

    The first quote addressed the question from what is needed to aid your father's advancement. This quote looks at it more from your perspective. You have here an excellent opportunity to learn and to process catalysts applicable to you by dealing with the other self. This seems to be an opportunity for you to "see the fruits of your beingness", as it were. From my other readings, I would suggest that Phoenix was square on with his suggestion to accomplish this through open honest communication with the pair. If you are interested in hearing more related quotes that address this issue, please let me know.

    Love and Light,

    Your humble servant,

    3D Susnet

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    Should I continue to have contact with my father? - by Vince - 06-08-2009, 01:50 AM
    RE: Should I continue to have contact with my father? - by Ali Quadir - 06-08-2009, 04:15 AM
    RE: Should I continue to have contact with my father? - by Vince - 06-08-2009, 08:52 AM
    RE: Should I continue to have contact with my father? - by Phoenix - 06-08-2009, 07:18 AM
    RE: Should I continue to have contact with my father? - by Ali Quadir - 06-08-2009, 08:31 AM
    RE: Should I continue to have contact with my father? - by Sirius - 06-08-2009, 09:24 AM
    RE: Should I continue to have contact with my father? - by Vince - 06-16-2009, 03:42 AM
    RE: Should I continue to have contact with my father? - by 3D Sunset - 06-16-2009, 09:12 AM
    RE: Should I continue to have contact with my father? - by 3D Sunset - 06-08-2009, 09:47 AM
    RE: Should I continue to have contact with my father? - by Vince - 06-16-2009, 03:55 AM
    RE: Should I continue to have contact with my father? - by Monica - 06-16-2009, 02:27 PM
    RE: Should I continue to have contact with my father? - by irpsit - 06-09-2009, 02:09 AM
    RE: Should I continue to have contact with my father? - by Monica - 06-09-2009, 12:18 PM
    RE: Should I continue to have contact with my father? - by Vince - 06-16-2009, 08:11 PM
    RE: Should I continue to have contact with my father? - by pluralone - 06-09-2009, 07:38 PM
    RE: Should I continue to have contact with my father? - by Monica - 06-16-2009, 03:48 AM
    RE: Should I continue to have contact with my father? - by Vince - 06-16-2009, 11:10 PM
    RE: Should I continue to have contact with my father? - by Sirius - 06-17-2009, 08:43 AM
    RE: Should I continue to have contact with my father? - by Phoenix - 06-17-2009, 09:10 AM
    RE: Should I continue to have contact with my father? - by Vince - 06-17-2009, 08:10 PM
    RE: Should I continue to have contact with my father? - by Sirius - 06-17-2009, 09:13 PM
    RE: Should I continue to have contact with my father? - by Vince - 06-17-2009, 10:20 PM
    RE: Should I continue to have contact with my father? - by fairyfarmgirl - 06-16-2009, 11:57 AM
    RE: Should I continue to have contact with my father? - by Vince - 06-17-2009, 12:42 PM
    RE: Should I continue to have contact with my father? - by Sirius - 06-16-2009, 09:45 PM
    RE: Should I continue to have contact with my father? - by Vince - 06-17-2009, 05:49 PM
    RE: Should I continue to have contact with my father? - by xlsander - 06-17-2009, 08:57 AM
    RE: Should I continue to have contact with my father? - by Sirius - 06-17-2009, 09:24 AM
    RE: Should I continue to have contact with my father? - by fairyfarmgirl - 06-17-2009, 03:08 PM
    RE: Should I continue to have contact with my father? - by Sirius - 06-17-2009, 06:24 PM
    RE: Should I continue to have contact with my father? - by Sirius - 06-18-2009, 09:32 AM
    RE: Should I continue to have contact with my father? - by Vince - 06-18-2009, 10:22 AM
    RE: Should I continue to have contact with my father? - by Monica - 06-21-2009, 07:53 PM
    RE: Should I continue to have contact with my father? - by Vince - 06-21-2009, 09:51 PM

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