03-29-2011, 12:42 AM
(This post was last modified: 03-29-2011, 12:44 AM by turtledude23.)
(03-29-2011, 12:32 AM)zenmaster Wrote:(03-27-2011, 05:13 PM)Ankh Wrote:Years ago, I used to 'counsel' so-called 'wanderers' - 'light being' was the more popular term. Don't ask me why, at some point, many just came to me asking for answers (yes, with what I'd call whiny attitudes). "Whiny" seemed to be the best adjective for 'I want to go home'. And now, it seems even more appropriate due to the reactions here (buttons apparently pushed). (Imagine Hercules complaining about the misfortune of a paper cut.)(03-26-2011, 12:43 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(03-26-2011, 09:59 AM)Confused Wrote: Where is home?
It seems it's their idea of somewhere they perceive they'd feel more comfortable or compatible. I've heard many, many whiny complaints about one's circumstances - being that of a prison, or what not, over the years. I think some people throw the concept of service out the window and desire certain regressive comforts or atmosphere that makes them feel more congruent with themselves. It's a thoroughly '3D'-identifying mindset.
First I got surprised when I saw the above post but then when I saw it was you, it was like: "aah it's only zen".My buttons were not pushed by it as I actually agree with you regarding my personal experience. I have noticed that homesickness dissables me to fully functioning in being in service. When I am attacked by it I dwell in self pitying and get too self absorbed. However I see that as a personal lesson and I am working on it, but it does give me guilt in dwelling in this state, because as I said I don't perform 100% when it happens. The reason to this reply is geniune curiosity for how humans function. If we speak of myself here I would never dare to post something like this, zen, as I would assume that it would hurt others self, therefore I am genuinely, really curious and nothing else in what moved you to post this? What was the drive behind your post?
Dude, what the hell? Complaining about suffering is part of the 3D experience, and wanderers suffer more than many, if not most people, emotionally. Just because we have more drive to grow spiritually and just because we're more likely to fulfill our potential doesn't make us immune to suffering. "I want to go home" is a totally legitimate thing to feel when you spent millions of years in what would be better any imaginable utopia and you come to a planet full of disharmony and needless suffering. Its the spiritual equivalent of being used to a life of luxury and comfort and then becoming homeless. The occasional "whining" on a forum of what someone hopes is full of like-minded and understanding people is the least any person would deserve, let alone someone as emotionally sensitive as a wanderer.
We all need each other. What if the only way for our potential to be fulfilled is by other people patiently and empathetically listening to our "whining"? I don't know of anyone who became an STO adept through harsh, military-like self-discipline - Buddha only became enlightened after giving that up - that is the formula for STS adept though. Do you think you're helping anyone by condemning their "whining"? Perhaps people expressing their emotions makes you uncomfortable? I apologize in advance if you believe I'm projecting something right now.