03-30-2011, 11:56 AM
Thank you all for participating in this thread, it feels nice to shed some light on a highly discussed issue. Nothing is definite, and there are no absolutes. This discussion has been about the evolution of 4D bodies. I'm not trying to convince anyone to believe a gradualist belief. I am simply dissecting Ra's words, and trying to connect the pieces, even point out inconsistencies (within the material or within my own mind).
When first getting into the Ra material and all the metaphysical/New Age material, I held firm to an "instant ascension" belief because I wanted so bad for it to be true. My own guides (through my unique channeling experiences) managed to dissolve this belief and open my mind to the beauty of life as it is now.
I was simply speculating about the family issue...I have no clue if that's how a 4D society will think. I assume that, through nature of social synchronicity, only the appropriate number of entities will desire to have children (appropriate for sustainability on this planet). The desire to have a family will still exist, very strongly for some, but not for as many as we have now.
Ra states, during the transition, the chance for polarization will be great. Your children will find their way, and have plenty of chance to serve if they choose. And no doubt they will see some amazing things in their lifetime that will leave humanity awe-struck.
Like I said, I'm really not trying to convince anyone of the gradualist vs. instant debate. I was just trying to discuss Ra's words about the evolution of 4D bodies.
Out of simple curiosity, taking into account a gradual 4D body evolution, how do you picture the rest of ascension happening? Our bodies are only a single part of this. I'd love to hear your thoughts.
(03-29-2011, 11:42 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: I'm officially convinced now. I believe it's gradual. I'm beside myself at how fluidly this thread moved.
I'm a new man again. Broke through a new wall I built. Nothing left to do but enjoy the ride. Funny, my joy is found in the family need you just described as something propable to go away. I'm going to go live for them in any way I'm asked. There is no rush anymore.
One last question. Are my kids going to have a full chance to polarize? They don't really seem to be the 4D variety.
When first getting into the Ra material and all the metaphysical/New Age material, I held firm to an "instant ascension" belief because I wanted so bad for it to be true. My own guides (through my unique channeling experiences) managed to dissolve this belief and open my mind to the beauty of life as it is now.
I was simply speculating about the family issue...I have no clue if that's how a 4D society will think. I assume that, through nature of social synchronicity, only the appropriate number of entities will desire to have children (appropriate for sustainability on this planet). The desire to have a family will still exist, very strongly for some, but not for as many as we have now.
Ra states, during the transition, the chance for polarization will be great. Your children will find their way, and have plenty of chance to serve if they choose. And no doubt they will see some amazing things in their lifetime that will leave humanity awe-struck.
(03-30-2011, 01:55 AM)Confused Wrote: That nevertheless, I still hold to the non-gradualist thought, but non-dogmatically. If information, knowledge and evidence proves otherwise, I would immediately change my position. Moreover, what other option is there before truth? Truth does not care for what positions I hold personally. It is as it is.
Like I said, I'm really not trying to convince anyone of the gradualist vs. instant debate. I was just trying to discuss Ra's words about the evolution of 4D bodies.
Out of simple curiosity, taking into account a gradual 4D body evolution, how do you picture the rest of ascension happening? Our bodies are only a single part of this. I'd love to hear your thoughts.
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