LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels

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Okay, here's some snippets from Gospel of Judas:

One day he was with his disciples in Judea, and he found them gathered together andseated in pious observance.
When he [approached] his disciples, [34] gathered together and seated and offering a prayer of thanksgiving over the bread, [he] laughed.
The disciples said to [him], “Master, why are you laughing at [our] prayer of thanksgiving? We have done what is right.”
He answered and said to them, “I am not laughing at you. <You> are not doing this because of your own will but because it is through this that your god [will be] praised.”
They said, “Master, you are […] the son of our god.”
Jesus said to them, “How do you know me? Truly [I] say to you, no generation of the people that are among you will know me.”

Okay, so here, Jesus walks in on the disciples following a Jewish ritual or holiday, and he openly mocks them. The inference is when he says "your god", which prompts the dazed and confused response from the disciples.

This is pretty big. Jesus is distinguishing between the Jewish god (yahweh) and the 'god' he belongs to, presumably the One Infinite Creator, or possibly the Confederation?

The bolded part at the end is the money shot tho. Jesus straight up makes a wanderer roll call! He asks for someone who truly 'knows' him. I'm assuming that through the LOO filter, this means from his previous incarnations.

Anways, the craziest part is yet to come, check out what happens next:

THE DISCIPLES BECOME ANGRY
When his disciples heard this, they started getting angry and infuriated and began blaspheming against him in their hearts.
When Jesus observed their lack of [understanding, he said] to them, “Why has this agitation led you to anger? Your god who is within you and […] [35] have provoked you to anger [within] your souls. [Let] any one of you who is [strong enough] among human beings bring out the perfect human and stand before my face.”
They all said, “We have the strength.”
But their spirits did not dare to stand before [him], except for Judas Iscariot.
He was able to stand before him, but he could not look him in the eyes, and he turned his face away.
Judas [said] to him, “I know who you are and where you have come from. You are from the immortal realm of Barbelo. And I am not worthy to utter the name of the one who has sent you.”

So the disciples get pissed by him saying nobody knows who he is, and Jesus challenges them to stand up to him and look him in the face if they know who he is. Notice he is calling out Yahweh here? He blames the "god within them" for their anger, right after mocking their Jewish religious ceremony. But then the impossible happens: Jesus' bluff is called by the OIC. Judas Iscariot seems to be a wanderer himself; again i'm now assuming as a pre-incarnative contract with the Confederation.

Anyone heard of Barbelo before???

So, this is from the first scene alone of the Gospel of Judas... i'll post anything else i find as I go back through it. I wasnt as much into the LOO stuff when I last read it, so i'm interested to reacquaint myself

Gospel of Judas

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Another interesting passage seemingly about Logoi possibly???:

JESUS TEACHES JUDAS ABOUT COSMOLOGY: THE SPIRIT AND THE SELF-GENERATED
Jesus said, “[Come], that I may teach you about [secrets] no person [has] ever seen.
For there exists a great and boundless realm, whose extent no generation of angels has seen, [in which] there is [a] great invisible [Spirit],
which no eye of an angel has ever seen,
no thought of the heart has ever comprehended,
and it was never called by any name.
“And a luminous cloud appeared there. He said, ‘Let an angel come into being as my attendant.’
“A great angel, the enlightened divine Self-Generated, emerged from the cloud.
Because of him, four other angels came into being from another cloud, and they became attendants for the angelic Self-Generated.
The Self-Generated said, [48] ‘Let […] come into being […],’ and it came into being […].
And he [created] the first luminary to reign over him.
He said, ‘Let angels come into being to serve [him],’ and myriads without
number came into being.
He said, ‘[Let] an enlightened aeon come into being,’ and he came into being.
He created the second luminary [to] reign over him, together with
myriads of angels without number, to offer service.
That is how he created the rest of the enlightened aeons.
He made them reign over them, and he created for them myriads of angels without number, to assist them.

ADAMAS AND THE LUMINARIES
“Adamas was in the first luminous cloud that no angel has ever seen among all those called ‘God.’ He [49] […] that […] the image […] and after the likeness of [this] angel. He made the incorruptible [generation] of Seth appear […] the twelve […] the twentyfour […]. He made seventy-two luminaries appear in the incorruptible generation, in accordance with the will of the Spirit. The seventy-two luminaries themselves made three hundred sixty luminaries appear in the incorruptible generation, in accordance with the will of the Spirit, that their number should be five for each.
“The twelve aeons of the twelve luminaries constitute their father, with six heavens for each aeon, so that there are seventy-two heavens for the seventy-two luminaries, and for each [50] [of them five] firmaments, [for a total of] three hundred sixty [firmaments …]. They were given authority and a [great] host of angels [without number], for glory and adoration, [and after that also] virgin spirits, for glory and [adoration] of all the aeons and the heavens and their firmaments.

THE COSMOS, CHAOS, AND THE UNDERWORLD
“The multitude of those immortals is called the cosmos— that is, perdition—by the Father and the seventy-two luminaries who are with the Self-Generated and his seventytwo aeons. In him the first human appeared with his incorruptible powers. And the aeon that appeared with his generation, the aeon in whom are the cloud of knowledge and the
angel, is called [51] El. […] aeon […] after that […] said, ‘Let twelve angels come into being [to] rule over chaos and the [underworld].’ And look, from the cloud there appeared an [angel] whose face flashed with fire and whose appearance was defiled with blood. His name was Nebro, which means ‘rebel’; others call him Yaldabaoth. Another angel, Saklas, also came from the cloud. So Nebro created six angels—as well as
Saklas—to be assistants, and these produced twelve angels in the heavens, with each one receiving a portion in the heavens.

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JESUS SPEAKS OF THOSE WHO ARE BAPTIZED, AND JUDAS’S BETRAYAL
Judas said to Jesus, “Look, what will those who have been baptized in your name do?”
Jesus said, “Truly I say [to you], this baptism [56] […] my name [—about nine lines missing—] to me.
Truly [I] say to you, Judas, [those who] offer sacrifices to Saklas […] God [—three lines missing—] everything that is evil.
“But you will exceed all of them. For you will sacrifice the man that clothes me.

Already your horn has been raised,
your wrath has been kindled,
your star has shown brightly,
and your heart has […]. [57]

“Truly […] your last […] become [—about two and a half lines missing—], grieve [—about two lines missing—] the ruler, since he will be destroyed.
And then the image of the great generation of Adam will be exalted, for prior to heaven, earth, and the angels, that generation, which is from the eternal realms, exists.
Look, you have been told everything.
Lift up your eyes and look at the cloud and the light within it and the stars surrounding it.
The star that leads the way is your star.”
Judas lifted up his eyes and saw the luminous cloud, and he entered it. Those standing on the ground heard a voice coming from the cloud, saying, [58] […] great generation...

And here it is: Jesus asks for Judas to do the dirty deed.