Okay, I have a slightly different take on it than you, which is okay of course
Here's how I see it:
Jesus 'chose' to be a martyr (pre-incarnatively), that's why he didn't resist the way things played out. That's the compassion and love in abundance lacking wisdom Ra speaks of - the way of the martyr.
He 'would' have held his ground. Long in advance, and on his way to Jerusalem, he knew what lay ahead. He knew Jerusalem was to be the place where his martyrdom plays out.
Judas wanted Jesus to use his ability to access intelligent infinity for STS purposes, and Jesus wasn't so inclined. What is important to keep in mind here, is that Judas, like most everybody else in those days, was deceived by thousands of years of Orion teachings (Yahweh), from the old testament.
So Judas was just another victim of Orion lies (mostly).
I don't think Jesus would have done such a thing to Judas. To me the way Ra tells it, Judas was mostly an Orion victim. There is also the free will considerations here, Jesus asking such a thing of Judas, or manipulating him into it, just isn't possible to me.
So Judas already had inherent distortions towards power anyway, which was why he was more susceptible to the Orion influence than the other disciples.
One can only speculate, since all this information reached us in such a distorted way to begin with. Jesus told the truth, and that truth was uncomfortable for those under the influence of the Jewish faith, so almost everyone. The day of Jesus' death wasn't the first time Judas heard Jesus 'mock' the Jewish faith, he had been following him for a long time already. Jesus knew what was coming, he could see the future, he could see Judas' violet ray, and he could see Judas' thoughts.
The fact that Judas committed suicide, means that he wasn't all that bad, otherwise he wouldn't have been so traumatized by what had happened + Ra tells us he "believed that he was doing the appropriate thing". That speaks of Orion deception, not malice.
I see Judas as an Orion victim, and the fact that he was so close to Jesus, means he would surely have enjoyed '5th' density STS attention, as opposed to 4D STS, due to all the light Jesus generated, and the threat Jesus was to the Orion agenda.
We saw with the group who channeled Ra how quickly any distortion can be utilized by 5D STS.

hogey Wrote:It would explain the lack of fight Jesus had in being sent to the cross.
Jesus 'chose' to be a martyr (pre-incarnatively), that's why he didn't resist the way things played out. That's the compassion and love in abundance lacking wisdom Ra speaks of - the way of the martyr.
hogey Wrote:Pilate gave him more than enough chances to get out of it, but Jesus held his ground. The kiss may have been a personal thing; a goodbye possibly?
He 'would' have held his ground. Long in advance, and on his way to Jerusalem, he knew what lay ahead. He knew Jerusalem was to be the place where his martyrdom plays out.
hogey Wrote:I guess the mix up comes with Ra's explanation of what happened, saying that Judas thought that Jesus, if backed into a corner, would wield his power and 'make a difference'. This is possible in either circumstances.
Judas wanted Jesus to use his ability to access intelligent infinity for STS purposes, and Jesus wasn't so inclined. What is important to keep in mind here, is that Judas, like most everybody else in those days, was deceived by thousands of years of Orion teachings (Yahweh), from the old testament.
Book I, Session 17, February 3, 1981 Wrote:Questioner: When Jesus of Nazareth incarnated was there an attempt by
the Orion group to discredit him in some way?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.
Questioner: Can you tell me what the Orion group did in order to try to
cause his downfall?
Ra: I am Ra. We may describe in general what occurred. The technique was
that of building upon other negatively oriented information. This
information had been given by the one whom your peoples called
“Yahweh.” This information involved many strictures upon behavior and
promised power of the third-density, service-to-self nature. These two types
of distortions were impressed upon those already oriented to think these
thought-forms.
This eventually led to many challenges of the entity known as Jesus. It
eventually led to one, sound vibration complex “Judas,” as you call this
entity, who believed that it was doing the appropriate thing in bringing
about or forcing upon the one you call Jesus the necessity for bringing in
the third-density planetary power distortion of third-density rule over
others.
This entity, Judas, felt that, if pushed into a corner, the entity you call Jesus
would then be able to see the wisdom of using the power of intelligent
infinity in order to rule others. The one you call Judas was mistaken in this
estimation of the reaction of the entity, Jesus, whose teach/learning was not
oriented towards this distortion. This resulted in the destruction of the
bodily complex of the one known as Jesus.
So Judas was just another victim of Orion lies (mostly).
hogey Wrote:Even if Jesus expressly asked Judas to betray him, we can see that even when Jesus tells "the truth", it can be very cryptic. I don't think Judas knew exactly what was going on, but he trusted Jesus and did what he asked of him. He just couldn't take the aftermath once he realized that Jesus intended to die; his personal vision was being shattered before his eyes, so he committed suicide.
I don't think Jesus would have done such a thing to Judas. To me the way Ra tells it, Judas was mostly an Orion victim. There is also the free will considerations here, Jesus asking such a thing of Judas, or manipulating him into it, just isn't possible to me.
Ra Wrote:These two types
of distortions were impressed upon those already oriented to think these
thought-forms.
So Judas already had inherent distortions towards power anyway, which was why he was more susceptible to the Orion influence than the other disciples.
hogey Wrote:The best argument I could make for 'foretell' is that this conversation may have scared Judas. Here is Jesus - he is mocking the Jewish faith, he is taking responsibility for false teachers, and then he says that Judas' generation isn't even the benefactor of his work; its all for some future people. This may have pushed Judas to try to push Jesus by putting him in a tight spot. Additionally, depending on how truly wise Jesus was, he may have also told these stories on purpose, to push Judas towards the intended circumstance.
One can only speculate, since all this information reached us in such a distorted way to begin with. Jesus told the truth, and that truth was uncomfortable for those under the influence of the Jewish faith, so almost everyone. The day of Jesus' death wasn't the first time Judas heard Jesus 'mock' the Jewish faith, he had been following him for a long time already. Jesus knew what was coming, he could see the future, he could see Judas' violet ray, and he could see Judas' thoughts.
The fact that Judas committed suicide, means that he wasn't all that bad, otherwise he wouldn't have been so traumatized by what had happened + Ra tells us he "believed that he was doing the appropriate thing". That speaks of Orion deception, not malice.
I see Judas as an Orion victim, and the fact that he was so close to Jesus, means he would surely have enjoyed '5th' density STS attention, as opposed to 4D STS, due to all the light Jesus generated, and the threat Jesus was to the Orion agenda.
We saw with the group who channeled Ra how quickly any distortion can be utilized by 5D STS.