07-09-2009, 02:37 PM
Well, I'd love to hear the counter arguments on P2P for sure, especially since I was so close to the piracy scene for so long.
Sirius:
I followed the RIAA lawsuits closely, and I agree the legal actions they have taken are not equal to the copyright violations that have taken place, especially in situations involving single mothers. It's pretty revolting in fact. However the base of the RIAA's complaint is still legitimate I think, that people should not get music without paying for it. Speaking simply (and of course it is complicated), a music artist signs on with a record label. The artist gets promotion and the label gets money when the artist does well. But if you download it for free, both the artist and label lose out financially. I like the concept of music being free, but unless the artist is giving it away himself in full agreement with it being free, it must be stealing.
Ayadew:
You make a very interesting point about the non-physical nature of music, and how you can copy it infinitely with no seeming loss of the original content. But we (on this forum) of all people should recognize the importance of non-materialism. I guess music is almost a service more than a good. I've heard that a lot of bands (like Nine Inch Nails) are going more in the direction of giving away free music and then charging money for live shows as a business model... But unless this is the intent of the musicians, aren't we going against the wishes?
Now to be my own devils advocate, I suppose one thing that's emerging out of music piracy is industry reform. Since you can get everything for free, the industry is being forced to adopt different methods (like NIN). In that sense it might be a positive thing overall. But that brings us full circle again, is not the hallmark of STS doing things to supposedly show someone else the right path, instead of the typical STO action of letting them realize it themselves? Maybe that only works on a personal level, I'm not sure.
I'm very interested in this topic... I feel fairly certain about my views but I would love to be shown how they are possibly distorted or wrong.
Sirius:
I followed the RIAA lawsuits closely, and I agree the legal actions they have taken are not equal to the copyright violations that have taken place, especially in situations involving single mothers. It's pretty revolting in fact. However the base of the RIAA's complaint is still legitimate I think, that people should not get music without paying for it. Speaking simply (and of course it is complicated), a music artist signs on with a record label. The artist gets promotion and the label gets money when the artist does well. But if you download it for free, both the artist and label lose out financially. I like the concept of music being free, but unless the artist is giving it away himself in full agreement with it being free, it must be stealing.
Ayadew:
You make a very interesting point about the non-physical nature of music, and how you can copy it infinitely with no seeming loss of the original content. But we (on this forum) of all people should recognize the importance of non-materialism. I guess music is almost a service more than a good. I've heard that a lot of bands (like Nine Inch Nails) are going more in the direction of giving away free music and then charging money for live shows as a business model... But unless this is the intent of the musicians, aren't we going against the wishes?
Now to be my own devils advocate, I suppose one thing that's emerging out of music piracy is industry reform. Since you can get everything for free, the industry is being forced to adopt different methods (like NIN). In that sense it might be a positive thing overall. But that brings us full circle again, is not the hallmark of STS doing things to supposedly show someone else the right path, instead of the typical STO action of letting them realize it themselves? Maybe that only works on a personal level, I'm not sure.
I'm very interested in this topic... I feel fairly certain about my views but I would love to be shown how they are possibly distorted or wrong.