3D to 4D: Sudden or Gradual? A great read...(David Wilcock interview)

[TomBombadil]

Dora: marvellous to hear that you discovered yourself. Very inspirational! Out of interest, what type of meditation do you perform to connect with your higher self/6D?

Meditation has always kept me near my higher self. However, I couldn't get the realization, life changing experience I needed to make it completely real.

However, after attending the Austin Convergence with David Wilcock, it seems some sort of new vibratonal energy was transforming within me.

It made me frustrated, confused and uneasy. It was almost like I had an 'itching' inside which I could not scratch. I was really having trouble meditating and could not rest with my higher power.

Then, I watched David's interview with Graham Hancock. In it, Graham talks about his experiences with 'ayahuasca'. I tried some and found out it really brought me in touch with my 6d self.

Since the experience, I have become a vegan, as the thought of being a 'murderer for meat' became extremely distasteful. Weight has dropped off and I feel myself on a new energy level.

Since ayahuasca is a hallucinogenic, I do not comment on its use other than it has been extremely useful to me in understand Ra's teachings and my bonding with my 6d self.

Here is the url to the interview, in case you are interested.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WiasAfSiu4

Thanks, had seen that - Graham is a very nice character, humble and to the point.

I have also had ayahuasca; a very unique experience. The (fascinating) book The Cosmic Serpent - DNA and the Origins of Knowledge led me to it.

Once was enough, as the power to transform is always within us at all times. Practiced compassion, meditation and intention is my path to All That Is - the lifting of the veil. Roll on 2012

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Interesting to see DW take the LOO line by line and give his interpretation of its meaning. I see TV preachers do the same thing with bible passages. Its apparent that he fervently believes his interpetation of coming events. But like all of us here..its just an opinion.

I like reading DW…but I read other channels also. I take the message from each that I feel helps me come to terms on whatever I’m working on at the time. But one thing I do agree with him on. You have to die to ascend. I just don’t think we’re all going to do it in one fell swoop. I believe the dates of 2010-2013 are meaningless in a physical context. Beyond the normal interplay of life in general. Meaning, there will always be incidents that take human life…storms, flood, earthquakes, other selves…etc..

Richard

I am also open to the notion that the 3D vehicle may very well perish, purely because there are a couple of very clear Ra quotes on the subject.

DW quoted in one of his video's (the latest 4 hour one) that he does not think all life was created to be wiped out by a natural disaster (solar flare, flood etc.), however I beg to differ. Every single one of us will at some point die in this 3D experience, which is just a playground for learning. If the end of the Great Cycle is near, all who have learned the lessons (or not) will be at a point of continued 3D or progression to 4D- or 4D+. A 'natural disaster' is just another means of getting people to the correct density when the time is right, to continue their path.

Either way, it's exciting times! I am in the camp that it will be a 'sudden' process (instant, hours, days or weeks) that the veil is lifted and we start to 'see' reality in a different manner, and feel connected to our total selves, and other selves. It could well be instant, considering that this reality is created/manifested at the speed of light, X times per second. There is nothing saying it has to be at the pace of Darwin's physical, genetic evolution.

Half the fun is thinking about it

Hello all.

I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in on this.

Based on the LOO teaching, Ra says that this planet is already 4D but not fully integrated into the Green Ray and that it will be in 1981 + 30 years (approx). So my question is, if its gradual and if it takes us all living out our lives THEN reincarnating to 4D, whats the point? Whats the point of Harvest? Also, if the earth becomes full on 4D, then its not 3D any longer, how could we live on it in 3D? Considering those things it seems very unlikely that we will either wait around or that we will all die, since it would take the death of every single person since Ra says the earth will be inhospitable for 3rd density life at that point, which means we CANT live on a 4D planet in 3D physical form.

I see it as a gift, as something out of the norm that makes it special, after all this isnt the regular end of cycle, this is the end of ALL cycles in 3d for this earth, by nature its different.

And the thing about Wilcock, I see a lot of people ridicule him, put him down and criticize just about every thing the man says yet he seems to be one of the ones truly working his butt off to help us all understand what's going on, to disseminate information to the world (Much of it for absolute free on his website such as his 3 volume Convergence series and the LOO Study Guide) as well as putting his neck on the line to get information from places where otherwise wouldnt be possible.. I mostly see this in supposed Lightworker and "Light/Love" people forums and websites, extremely childish, ignorant and petty if you ask me, exactly the opposite I would expect from the crowd claiming to be enlightened or even semi enlightened and here to make the world a better place. Of course this is how it always is with people like DW, its jsut a shame that it comes from the very people who should be supporting his work and the work of all likeminded people. It makes me very sad and reminds me how much this ascension is needed.

The bible, though a mixed source and corrupted in many ways, speaks of a catching up and it is done in the twinkling of an eye, the Maori speak of the dissolving of the veil ( from what I understand the term is meant to be rapid), the work of Calleman, McKenna Teillhard de Chardin, Vernadsky and others show the absolute omega point whererin time/consciousness has increased to a point of singularity, or Omega point as De Chardin calls it, again this is an all new occurence, never before having taken place on the earth...This speaks of a time/no time where something like instantaneous ascension seems to be the result. Many of us know and understand these time waves and this speed up towards the "great attractor at the end of time". We also have the Butterfly-man crop formation, where just as a catterpillar morphing into a butterfly, in the same lifetime, we appear to metamorphose into a highly evolved being...again, which would be done in the same lifetime. There seem to be so many, too many signs speaking to this as a very rapid event, something extremely special, a gift to us who are here, whats the point of all the new learning concerning consciousness having the ability to lower crime, prevent and/or lessen cataclysms if the end result is that we all need to perish in order to transition? It seems like a big fat waste. It also seems strange that everything is converging to raise our frequencies, we're doing all this work to raise them...only to end up having a mega die off wherein nearly 7 billion people are in absolute terror (save the extreme few who have overcome all fear of pain, loss and violent death), dying in a massive wave of fear, anger, pain, confusion, terror and heartache...

I cant claim to know it all and these are just my thoughts, only time will tell but I just done see the gradualist theory making much sense. Should our bodies turn into light, that would very well fit the term "death" of the physical body as spoken by Ra, just as the catterpillar body dies.

Cheers.