05-24-2011, 12:18 AM
(05-23-2011, 11:40 PM)Oceania Wrote: well Bashar says something to that effect. Zen, i'm not talking about 4d, of course we have no veil there. i'm saying 3d people without a veil would pop out of space/time afaics.
Oceania, there are sections in the Law of One series that discuss the veil and 3D/4D entities, in particular.
Ra makes it clear that there have been many societies here and elsewhere in the universe that experienced 3D with and without a veil:
Ra: I am Ra. The third density is, by its very fiber, a societal one. There are societies wherever there are entities conscious of the self and conscious of other-selves and possessed with intelligence adequate to process information indicating the benefits of communal blending of energies. The structures of society before as after veiling were various. However, the societies before veiling did not depend in any case upon the intentional enslavement of some for the benefit of others, this not being seen to be a possibility when all are seen as one. There was, however, the requisite amount of disharmony to produce various experiments in what you may call governmental or societal structures.
Also, third-density IS only about making the choice of polarity within a space/time construct. You cannot "pop" out of space/time since it is the physical structure of this density. If there is any popping out, it's our consciousness during the dream state when we cross the veil into the subconscious mind and experience time/space in other dimensions (dreams). But our native structure remains space/time for anyone in 3D.
Hope that helps to clarify...
Steve