(04-29-2011, 05:11 PM)abridgetoofar Wrote: This thread is born from the idea I've perceived from some forum members that STS entities will only communicate lies and deceit. I feel Ra's words suggest more depth within STS communication.
Quote:12.13 Questioner: You mentioned that the Orion crusaders, when they get through the net, give both technical and non-technical information. I think I know what you mean by technical information, but what type of non-technical information do they give? And am I right in assuming that this is done by telepathic contact?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. Through telepathy the philosophy of the Law of One with the distortion of service to self is promulgated. In advanced groups there are rituals and exercises given and these have been written down just as the service-to-others oriented entities have written down the promulgated philosophy of their teachers. The philosophy concerns the service of manipulating others that they may experience service towards the other self, thus through this experience becoming able to appreciate service to self. These entities would become oriented towards service to self and in turn manipulate yet others so that they in turn might experience the service towards the other self.
Firstly, I'd like to pose the question of how any of this technical information can be useful or legitimate if it is not honestly presented in an understandable manner?
Quote:12.14 Questioner: Would this be the origin of what we call black magic?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct in one sense, incorrect in another. The Orion group has aided the so-called negatively oriented among your mind/body/spirit complexes. These same entities would be concerning themselves with service to self in any case and there are many upon your so-called inner planes which are negatively oriented and thus available as inner teachers or guides and so-called possessors of certain souls who seek this distortion of service to self.
Why would any STS entity even seek out teachers or guides if these STS teachers and guides only lie?
Quote:12.15 Questioner: Is it possible for an entity here on Earth to be so confused as to call both the Confederation and the Orion group in an alternating way, first one, then the other, and then back to the first again?
Ra: I am Ra. It is entirely possible for the untuned channel, as you call that service, to receive both positive and negative communications. If the entity at the base of its confusion is oriented toward service to others, the entity will begin to receive messages of doom. If the entity at the base of the complex of beingness is oriented towards service to self, the crusaders, who in this case, do not find it necessary to lie, will simply begin to give the philosophy they are here to give. Many of your so-called contacts among your people have been confused and self-destructive because the channels were oriented towards service to others but, in the desire for proof, were open to the lying information of the crusaders who then were able to neutralize the effectiveness of the channel.
Here Ra points out a specific example of when a STS entity will lie and when it will not. A STS entity will lie to an untuned STO channel (in an effort to neutralize the message), but does "not find it necessary to lie" to an STS channel.
Within this thread I'm requesting we refrain from discussing specific STS channeled transcripts and focus mainly on:
-The nature of STS deceit, lies, and communication.
-The nature of pure STS channeling (STS channeler channeling STS entity)
Why does an STS entity transmit truth to an STS channel? Where is the service to self within this act? Does a self-serving action innately carry dishonesty and manipulation?
3rd Density being the cycle which the Soul uses to Polarize either Positive, Service to Others or Negative, Service to Self - relationships and interactions are the learning grounds of 3rd Density. Considering the earth's population consists largely of the Young Soul, which is not Polarized, many Souls needs both Positive and Negative experiences to decide on Polarity. The Soul sends a Personality to experience a number of incarnations in both Polarities so that it accumulates enough experiences to decide which Polarity it is more comfortable in.
One challenge of 3rd Density is the development of wisdom to determine if we are being lied to, being told the truth, be manipulated or controlled. These are the situations to test ones abilities in 3rd Density. A working rapport with the Higher Self is of upmost importance to graduating out of 3rd Density!