What is everyone's gut feeling on 2012?

[SJD]

One of the latest Q'uo readings states that the Earth's magnetic north is almost exactly where it needs to be to welcome 4th density energies (and may very well be exactly where it needs to be in the next three years)--so it seems that the possibilty of a twenty-degree pole shift is no longer necessary.
But of course there may be some excess internal heat-related Earth-changes prior to 2012 or whenever the Harvest occurs; but these, I think, will be far less extreme than pole shift Earth-changes would be.

Since LOO sources say that it will be a hundred years or so before 4th density Earth beings start to be born, I suspect that the intervening years will be years of humanity slowly awakening, to a certain degree, to the reality of unity/oneness with a great reduction in fear and animal-nature territoriality.

...and we 3rd density beings will begin to lose the ability to procreate after 2012.

Steve D.

I agree about the pole shift.

About the 3D/4D entities: what I had understood from the readings is that 4D entities are already here...but they are dual-activated (both 3D and 4D). They are the transitional generation. Although, 4D reality itself is still hidden....And, the 3D entities already here have the rest of their natural lives to make their choice, but there won't be any new 3D souls incarnating here anymore. The time for that is past. I just read this a few days ago, but don't remember which session it was...I'll see if I can find it.

I had understood the "losing our ability to procreate" to mean that we can no longer give birth to 3D children...Any new children being born would be dual- or 4D- activated. I vaguely remember the reading you are referring to...in the orginial LOO sessions, right? Would you be able to direct us to it? I'm wondering if this is one of those cases in which consensual choices have modified the reality to such an extent that it's not quite as bleak as was predicted 30 years ago...back then, it was questionable as to whether we could even stay in this body during the transition. The later Q'uo sessions seem to indicate that we've averted some of the more negative possibilities/probabilities to a great degree.

Greetings.

You bring up good points.

I recall Ra's statement that only a full fourth density being can survive full fourth density conditions (in approx. 100 years, born of dual-activated parents--tricky timing).

I cannot remember if it was Ra or other transcript Confederation sources who discussed humankind's upcoming growing inability to give birth to third density individuals. I don't know if difficulty birthing dual-bodies was mentioned. Finding the quotes is difficult without remembering exact phrases used--but I'll work on it when I have more time.

Steve D.