3D to 4D: Sudden or Gradual? A great read...(David Wilcock interview)

[3DMonkey]

I think we're trying to make sense of Ra's somewhat confusing statements about the transition from third density to fourth. If the transition is going to be gradual, how can it be that third density artifacts will go into potentiation? Will all our buildings, roads, etc. just suddenly disappear? That seems to me to be what Ra is saying, but how does it square with a gradual transition? And yet, Ra clearly says there will be a gradual evolution to fourth-density bodies.

That's what I thought.

There isn't a need to make the two the same. Third density will, at some point, not be activated. The gradual transition will be fully expressed before this happens.

I think the attempt to make Ra's information fit with our preconceived notions of an immediate zap into 4D brought about by 2012 and the like is what is clouding all this.

2012 is one event. Harvest is another event. 3D potentiation is another event. 4D activation is another event.

Everything in our existence that we are currently aware of is beautifully orchestrated. This won't stop.

Those are preconceived notions/ideas as well. I am asked to provide preconceived notions to see were my ideas are "generated"...I say keep an open mind just because of this. I try not to rely on "regular common sense" just on what Ra states. I provide a Ra quote to try to see what is going to happen with the so called artifacts.

This is very important. There seems to be a quantum shift form density to density but from 3rd to 4th (due to incompatibility) 3rd becasue potentiated (not active) at least for a while.

Pole shift appears to have been averted. But, it seems that because of the notion of the Great Harvest, all this is a new ball of wax...

On a previous thread (?) it was discussed that dual entities would survive and continue the gradual shift to full 4d. However this current talk applies to 3d's destiny.

How can dual entities and even 2d can survive? What is the mechanism for this according to Ra's answer? For example.


Obviously, to answer those questions all of us bring pre-conceived ideas...not just me...

The Earth is in Fourth Density now. The "incompatibility discussion" is about something that isn't. We are in fourth. We have bodies here now with both 3D and 4D activated. The "if" of incompatibility is a non factor. "If I had a third leg, then I would have three legs."

Is not fully activated though.

Right! And it won't be activated at the expense of all that is. Placing yellow ray into potentiation is like injecting a drug into the body. A slow drip of an IV is the proper method, and forcing it all into the system at once is detrimental.

It is what we are seeing it to be now.

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Man, I could not find any "preconceived" notions on that one...Good job!

Okay. Haha.

Yes, I am reading the Ra material and created notions. The preconceived notions come from material not from Ra. I am not suggesting it is wrong to have preconceived notions. We all do, and it is how we co-create, etc.

If we are discussing Ra material, then we should come at it without preconceived notions. If we are discussing personal perspective, then all notions are on the table.

I prefer discussion of strictly Ra. I certainly have many notions we could discuss though.