(06-12-2011, 07:43 PM)abridgetoofar Wrote:(06-12-2011, 06:10 AM)unity100 Wrote: you can pick anything you can verify in your personal life. this may be the chakra system, this may be philosophy, this may be historical concepts about the lives of people examined.
a totally coherent, complete furball of information system touching the current reality we inhabit from any tangent will validate itself.
Isn't this also true of Q'uo? And a lot of other consciously channeled material? This in regards to the chakra system, philosophy, and so-forth. You say that these rather subjective things "validate the whole of information." Why do they validate the transient information, and only the transient information of the Ra material and not other material?
monica explained this quite well, so i dont think i need to respond to this. i agree with her logic in this matter.
Quote:What I am contending is the information which is apparently transient of spirituality; the ETs, the pyramids, the history, science, harvest, pole shift, etc. Why do we trust that Ra is correct about the Atlanteans only because their philosophical teachings seem to ring true to us? (just an example)
to answer specifically, what Ra says about atlantis quite explains and supports numerous other legends or channelings (like edgar cayce) and unexplained phenomenon like underground cities 7 levels deep in western anatolia.
Quote:I'll try to bring it back around...you contended that Q'uo was distorted and thus you couldn't believe for sure their statement that the pole shift was averted. With regards to everything I just said, why would Ra's prediction of a pole shift hold any more sway than Q'uo's assertion that pole shift was averted?
hatonn and latwii of the quo 'collective' is of 4th and 5th densities. 4,5 positive densities have abundance of hope, and positivity. it is natural that they hope for the best, wish for the best, believe the best.
ra is of late 6d. they are much more detached than the time continuum of these parts, and much more closer to infinite intelligence. also, they are balanced in attitude. they also have a much better position to observe probabilities.
and in addition, there is the coloring matter monica spoke about. it seemed to me that quo channelings tend to take a tone more in line with the popular mainstream positively oriented channelings, repeating and reiterating most of the common tenets.
this may be a proof of validity, but it also may be a proof of the coloration of contact by the channel, since quo is channeled not only by Carla, but many that participate in channelings.
Quote:Right, when I first started this side-discussion I tried to somewhat establish this. I find this particular discussion about the mechanics of harvest rather transient to philosophy/spirituality:
questionable.
if the gateway to infinite intelligence opens at the striking of the hour for a brief time, this has implications for spirituality.
it is, opening of the gateway to infinite intelligence. its no little matter.
in addition, the more i think the more i get that harvest is not something that can happen for extended durations of time :
in a normal 3d cycle, cycle is full 75,000 years.
in a normal 3d environment, ideal lifespan of a 3d body is 900 years.
if, the harvest was something that waited, waited and happened after harvest, it would have to last for some 400-500 years after it starts at the end of cycle, for any entity that is born at the end of harvest to be able to get harvested.
this would make harvest duration something quite noticeable compared to 75,000 years.