3D to 4D: Sudden or Gradual? A great read...(David Wilcock interview)

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Our bodies came from somewhere. I guess you could say that aliens placed more human bodies on Earth after the cycles, but Occam's Razor would suggest there was a continuation of the gene pool.

that is a question, and it was not at all asked in Ra material. moreover, traces of past civilizations seem to have disappeared rather way too conveniently. (not limited to lemuria or atlantis) but this was not asked about either.

so, currently, we dont have much pointers to this.

There's much within time/space that we cannot access from our space/time incarnations, what if the gateway to intelligent infinity is one of them? The veil could easily block this.

Also, Ra said 4D vibrations were primarily within time/space at the time of the contact. This is evidence that something can be affecting time/space and not space/time.

we now that gateway can be reached during incarnation. negative entities do that by harvesting themselves (garnering energy from others by negative polarization) but it seems positive entities can do it during harvest times/cycle ends.

Because they can, does that mean it will be forced upon them when harvest comes? Will intelligent infinity abridge free will?

this is a very deep topic actually.

intelligent infinity allows 6d future manifestation of an entity deciding when and how an entity dies in an 3d incarnation. intelligent infinity allows memory complex totality, or complex totality of an entity decide which lessons the entity should revisit, complex totality places the entity in appropriate experience nexus etc etc. there are a lot of stuff that are done by external sources when it needs to be done.

moreover we know that all entities are harvested regardless of progress. entities cannot choose not to be harvested at the end of major cycles. if you think that is forced. well.

But it doesn't yet, and you can't prove that the event will actually happen.

actually we know of other entities which have found this gateway. there is an abundance of it in legends, religious literature, or spiritual literature of recent times. it is also described in Ra material. how does experience of opening the gateway to intelligent infinity during an incarnation feels...

so, we can say that there already have been entities who opened this gate, apart from negatively polarized ones.

and we are told that the gate from intelligent energy to intelligent infinity opens regardless of the circumstance upon striking of the clock, at the end of major cycle.

so basically we know that it will open.

Ra says "this is the manner of harvesting," implying that this process itself is included in the harvest.

yes, however it is not relevant to how and when the entity dies at the end of a cycle.

what interests us is the reflection of that process that takes in the totality level (which is timeless) to our space/time time.

and for that, we have not been told that it takes centuries. we were told that it would happen in the year 2011.

second, there is the totality involved. totality can place the entity at any point in time, space. this may take a very variable amount of our time, but, it doesnt have to be in our time/space on this planet. it can be any nexus.

Considering that it is this nexus being evaluated to determine the nexus immediately following, I would think it is logical to assume that it takes place in this nexus.

not quite. cycle ends. those which are not harvestable have to be placed in other 3d experiences somewhere else in galaxy. (if not creation). or, an entity may be in a higher octave than the experiential nexus of 4d that is to yet start here, and it may be placed in another 4d nexus.

Right, and we know that the switch to 4D in space/time isn't instant, it is a process, while a precisely timed process, still a gradual process. The arrival of 4D energy is as the striking of a clock, yet when it arrived some years ago, everything was not instantly switched to 4D. And as 3D vibrations disappear in a year or so, Ra still says the transition will take hundreds of years. And so, while the arrival of the energy is like the striking of a clock, the transition is not as instant as the striking of a clock. Since Ra used this same analogy for harvest, we can allow the same assumption that harvest might be precisely timed to arrive, but doesn't happen in the instant of a clock strike.

i think you are greatly mistaken.

the switch to 4d in space/time is not necessary. photon is vibrating in green spectrum, ra tells us, since 1937. just that upon striking of the clock, the green vibration will be in full force, and the 4d sphere which is only in time/space now, will be solid and habitable.

on the other hand, transition to full 4d bodies may take as many hundreds of years as it needs, since it doesnt involve entities that need to be harvested - they are already entities which are harvested.

arrival of 4d, is not 'passage to 4d bodies'. what's gradual is, passage to 4d bodies.

The transition of the Earth is also gradual, and that is what was being specifically described as the striking of a clock.

13.23 Questioner: How does a third-density planet become a fourth density planet?
Ra: I am Ra. This will be the last full question.

The fourth density is, as we have said, as regularized in its approach as the striking of a clock upon the hour. The space/time of your solar system has enabled this planetary sphere to spiral into space/time of a different vibrational configuration. This causes the planetary sphere to be able to be molded by these new distortions. However, the thought-forms of your people during this transition period are such that the mind/body/spirit complexes of both individual and societies are scattered throughout the spectrum instead of becoming able to grasp the needle, shall we say, and point the compass in one direction.

40.8 Questioner: Then what will be the time of transition on this planet from third to fourth-density?
Ra: I am Ra. This is difficult to estimate due to the uncharacteristic anomalies of this transition. There are at this space/time nexus beings incarnate which have begun fourth-density work. However, the third-density climate of planetary consciousness is retarding the process. At this particular nexus the possibility/probability vortices indicate somewhere between 100 and 700 of your years as transition period. This cannot be accurate due to the volatility of your peoples at this space/time.

So while it is as regularized as the striking of a clock, it still takes 100 to 700 years.

I understand this is not talking about harvest, but the transition to 4D. I am simply pointing this out because Ra used the analogy for both.

well, that leaves little to say to me, since you yourself mentioned that it doesnt relate to harvest.

transition to a full 4d experience in 4d bodies, after harvest, starts with the harvest. it is not analogous with the harvest. otherwise, there would be no need to differentiate the two.

the start of this process and initiation of 4d sphere, apparently, work like a clock and happen at the striking of the hour. the transition of experiential nexus and the 4d bodies to inhabit it, may take any hundreds of years.

but, during all that process, 4d sphere will be available there. you may as well choose to populate it with 4d bodies brought from elsewhere, by having 4d entities incarnate in them.

but, you may wait the existing biological bodies create the 4d bodies for the 4d through biological evolution over a period. that is transition.

Again, I would consider the existence of the human race proof that there were surviving humans after those cycles.

open for debate. there are a lot of extinct sub species of hominoid monkeys.