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    06-13-2011, 08:57 PM
    Interesting post Raman, but there are two sides to that coin.

    You put tolerating 3D and wishing 3D to continue in the same boat, and I must point out the fault in that. They are different things, and one may do both, or one, or the other. For someone who wishes to end suffering, wanting 3D to continue would be silly.

    But the sudden vs. gradual debate could be linked to 3D tolerance, no? To be completely candid, for a long time, I was a very strong proponent for the instant transition, because I wanted it so bad. I wanted so bad to experience something different. I wanted so bad to be elevated from the suffering. I wanted so bad to be rid of this constrictive 3D body, 3D incarnation, and just move to the next step. I wanted all the problems to be solved for me so I could sit back and enjoy flying around in a 4D body, just enjoying the love.

    But I meditated a lot on this, and realized it was my intolerance of 3D which was leading me to reject a gradual transition theory. I wasn't looking at the evidence objectively, I was looking at it very subjectively. I believed that there was going to be an instant transition because I wanted to believe it.

    Who is afraid to lose their 3D body? I surely am not. I'd love to be rid of it. But should that be what determines what I believe? Should I let my intolerance of my 3D body distract me from the service I am here to provide?

    The world is suffering, and I would love to just sit and meditate, and think, "Oh goody goody, this will all be over soon...any day now, the suffering will end. Any day now, this will all be different, and we can start our 4D lives fresh and renewed, we don't have to do anything!"

    But what if that day comes, and we're still here? And there's still suffering? Will I re-evaluate the date, and say, "Oh, just a miscalculation...it will be here soon...the suffering will end soon." And I live out my days, waiting, waiting for the suffering to end...waiting, waiting for a 4D society to enjoy.

    I don't care what Ra says. I don't care what I draw from Ra's words. I will not wait. I will not believe that the suffering will end itself. I will not believe that our 3D society does not have to be transmuted to a 4D society. I will work. I will pour my heart into creating the reality, I will not wait for the reality to be created for me.


    I would love a 4D body right now. I would love to have an instant transition into a harmonious 4D sphere, where everything is beautiful and the suffering is gone. I don't fear the idea of instant evolution. I have absolutely no fear of death. What I fear is that I will have spent my incarnation not doing as much as I could to change the world, to relieve the suffering, and to make a peaceful 4D future a reality.
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    Elder Race - by vbaba - 06-08-2011, 11:01 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Unbound - 06-08-2011, 11:19 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by vbaba - 06-09-2011, 12:47 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by 3DMonkey - 06-08-2011, 11:30 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Aaron - 06-08-2011, 03:56 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by vbaba - 06-09-2011, 03:45 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Brittany - 06-08-2011, 04:27 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by vbaba - 06-09-2011, 06:54 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by zenmaster - 06-09-2011, 08:05 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-09-2011, 08:26 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by zenmaster - 06-09-2011, 08:30 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by vbaba - 06-10-2011, 12:04 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-10-2011, 12:25 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by zenmaster - 06-08-2011, 05:26 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by vbaba - 06-10-2011, 11:28 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by zenmaster - 06-10-2011, 01:27 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Ankh - 06-08-2011, 06:43 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by vbaba - 06-09-2011, 07:37 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Ankh - 06-10-2011, 09:09 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by vbaba - 06-12-2011, 02:20 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by zenmaster - 06-08-2011, 06:59 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-09-2011, 10:20 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by vbaba - 06-09-2011, 09:15 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by sequoyah - 06-10-2011, 12:23 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by vbaba - 06-09-2011, 10:27 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by zenmaster - 06-09-2011, 10:53 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-09-2011, 11:07 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by vbaba - 06-12-2011, 10:59 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by zenmaster - 06-12-2011, 11:14 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by vbaba - 06-12-2011, 06:08 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by 3DMonkey - 06-08-2011, 07:22 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Nyu - 06-08-2011, 08:41 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by 3DMonkey - 06-09-2011, 11:16 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by 111 - 06-09-2011, 01:25 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Oceania - 06-09-2011, 04:03 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by sequoyah - 06-09-2011, 07:15 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Nyu - 06-09-2011, 10:35 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by vbaba - 06-10-2011, 10:02 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-10-2011, 11:56 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by vbaba - 06-12-2011, 11:44 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by unity100 - 06-12-2011, 05:06 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by vbaba - 06-12-2011, 09:09 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-12-2011, 09:25 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by vbaba - 06-12-2011, 10:43 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-12-2011, 11:43 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by unity100 - 06-13-2011, 06:11 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Ankh - 06-12-2011, 06:10 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by kycahi - 06-12-2011, 09:24 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by zenmaster - 06-10-2011, 12:33 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by unity100 - 06-10-2011, 07:49 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by zenmaster - 06-10-2011, 09:08 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by unity100 - 06-10-2011, 01:52 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by 3DMonkey - 06-10-2011, 01:59 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by 3DMonkey - 06-10-2011, 12:37 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Raman - 06-10-2011, 02:06 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by unity100 - 06-11-2011, 07:55 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Ankh - 06-11-2011, 09:40 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by unity100 - 06-11-2011, 09:49 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Ankh - 06-11-2011, 10:05 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by unity100 - 06-12-2011, 11:20 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by zenmaster - 06-12-2011, 11:31 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Unbound - 06-10-2011, 05:15 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by 3DMonkey - 06-10-2011, 05:24 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Unbound - 06-10-2011, 05:25 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Raman - 06-10-2011, 08:19 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Raman - 06-11-2011, 10:25 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Raman - 06-12-2011, 12:32 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by vbaba - 06-12-2011, 06:04 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Unbound - 06-12-2011, 05:33 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by unity100 - 06-12-2011, 05:41 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by 111 - 06-12-2011, 05:56 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by unity100 - 06-12-2011, 06:11 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by vbaba - 06-12-2011, 06:36 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Unbound - 06-12-2011, 06:04 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Unbound - 06-12-2011, 06:11 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Unbound - 06-12-2011, 06:38 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by vbaba - 06-12-2011, 09:39 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by 3DMonkey - 06-12-2011, 07:27 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Raman - 06-12-2011, 08:58 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by 3DMonkey - 06-12-2011, 09:34 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by vbaba - 06-12-2011, 11:25 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Raman - 06-13-2011, 12:04 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Ankh - 06-13-2011, 03:42 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Raman - 06-12-2011, 11:06 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Unbound - 06-12-2011, 11:12 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Raman - 06-12-2011, 11:29 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Unbound - 06-12-2011, 11:35 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Unbound - 06-12-2011, 11:46 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-12-2011, 11:48 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Unbound - 06-13-2011, 03:31 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Raman - 06-13-2011, 06:22 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by unity100 - 06-13-2011, 06:56 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-13-2011, 10:57 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Namaste - 06-13-2011, 07:02 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by unity100 - 06-13-2011, 07:24 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Namaste - 06-13-2011, 07:45 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by unity100 - 06-13-2011, 07:59 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Raman - 06-13-2011, 07:25 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Namaste - 06-13-2011, 07:56 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Raman - 06-13-2011, 08:02 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Namaste - 06-13-2011, 08:12 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by unity100 - 06-13-2011, 08:15 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by unity100 - 06-13-2011, 08:13 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Raman - 06-13-2011, 07:54 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Namaste - 06-13-2011, 08:06 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by unity100 - 06-13-2011, 08:11 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Namaste - 06-13-2011, 08:15 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Namaste - 06-13-2011, 08:18 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by unity100 - 06-13-2011, 09:03 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Raman - 06-13-2011, 08:21 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by 3DMonkey - 06-13-2011, 08:28 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Namaste - 06-13-2011, 08:36 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Raman - 06-13-2011, 08:41 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Ankh - 06-14-2011, 04:35 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Namaste - 06-13-2011, 09:27 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by unity100 - 06-13-2011, 09:40 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by 3DMonkey - 06-13-2011, 09:40 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Namaste - 06-13-2011, 10:21 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by unity100 - 06-13-2011, 11:49 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-13-2011, 12:11 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Raman - 06-13-2011, 10:30 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by 3DMonkey - 06-13-2011, 10:36 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Namaste - 06-13-2011, 11:24 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Namaste - 06-13-2011, 12:48 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by unity100 - 06-13-2011, 01:47 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-13-2011, 02:27 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by unity100 - 06-13-2011, 04:40 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Unbound - 06-13-2011, 04:04 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-13-2011, 04:14 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by kycahi - 06-13-2011, 05:27 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by 3DMonkey - 06-13-2011, 05:33 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-13-2011, 06:22 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Unbound - 06-13-2011, 06:17 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Raman - 06-13-2011, 08:04 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-13-2011, 08:57 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by unity100 - 06-14-2011, 07:46 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Raman - 06-13-2011, 09:12 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Meerie - 06-14-2011, 04:38 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Namaste - 06-20-2011, 04:34 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by BlatzAdict - 06-24-2011, 02:50 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Oceania - 06-24-2011, 05:01 PM
    RE: Elder Race - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-25-2011, 05:36 AM
    RE: Elder Race - by Raman - 06-25-2011, 11:41 AM

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