3D to 4D: Sudden or Gradual? A great read...(David Wilcock interview)

[Raman]

It is becoming a moot point. To me, now, it is a choice. I understand you have little kids etc and orange ray of protection takes over and it is understandable. However, in my opinion, such thinking hinders evolution.

To be fair Raman, I feel you are projecting things onto the opposing viewpoint. In another thread, you projected the thought that a belief in gradual transition meant someone was okay with the suffering in 3D, even going so far to say that they "didn't deserve to be harvested." You also projected the idea that someone that believed in gradual transition must be "tolerant to 3D and not ready for 4D," and "scared of losing their 3D body."

Here, you are projecting the idea that 3DMonkey is caught in orange ray protection of his tribe, with little basis for that accusation.

Why do you feel the need to apply such things to someone who opposes your viewpoint? Why reach into others' personal lives like that with no basis of knowing who they really are?

That you changed opinions does not mean you were wrong before and now right...viceversa...

And no one is claiming that.

Information available is the same. However, I respect your opinion and choice of thinking and it is valid. Choices are choices. And I agree: You won't really know until death.

However, the info is there.

I appreciate the respect for others' opinions, though I am curious about the projections, and you are right; the info is there, and open for interpretation.

Obviously, it was not my intention to offend anyone..you see I can also say you or 3DM are "projecting"...

Projection can be attributed to anything so it really loses the meaning. It could be behind an idea or the result of experiences or catalysts...the whole of 3d is a projection of interplays between mind, body and spirit since there is a veil.

However, I do not intent to discuss this topic any further since the so called projections (form one or another) becomes an easy bullet for anything. But such is the nature of language and the veil and of course of 3d.

Even, if current earth conditions were like living in a paradise...we all singing Kumbaya etc...every body the happiest, Harvest will occur you see...still if you do not want progress..why should progress occur? I very much believe that I would want a 4d change as bad (even with paradise conditions)...--if that is even congruent with 3d in this extreme of the galaxy.

I agree with your ideas of wanting a better 3d and I consider this very necessary..I have mentioned developments having to do with the so called May 15th spanish revolution a an incredible movement 4d oriented...

However...even if this were a paradise, any achievements will be materialize in a 4d + planet. And a gradual approach could make more sense here.

However, a gradual approach in current conditions is not feasible...planet will probably be torn to pieces if current conditions go on...

However (again), if by gradual we understand dual activated ones surviving and transforming "gradually" to a new 4d world then, you see, isvery feasible but still, the harvest per se cannot be equal to that. Otherwise there is no logic in the info (in my opinion) given by Ra.