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    06-22-2011, 02:50 PM (This post was last modified: 06-22-2011, 03:17 PM by Richard.)
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    (06-22-2011, 02:29 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:
    (06-22-2011, 12:07 PM)unity100 Wrote: everyone is responsible with what they do. law of responsibility.

    Yes, and if I remember correctly, the more one is aware, the higher the responsibility.

    Many people contribute to negative entities unwittingly. Once their eyes are opened, they share in the responsibility.

    The situation is complicated by the money system and the fact that most people have to work in order to survive and care for their families. That too is responsibility. It would be irresponsible to neglect one's children.

    One should not be in such a dilemma, to have to choose between caring for one's family and doing the 'right' thing at one's job. But the structure of 3D creates these dilemmas, as catalyst.

    The reason for the dilemma is that most people are employed by others, and therefore involved in a contract. The contract is that they must obey their supervisors, in order to collect a paycheck. This puts them in a difficult position. They have sold their freedom, essentially, in exchange for a way to earn a living.

    I would not judge someone in such a situation. It is the nature of the reality we currently live in. Some cases are very clear: The attorney who defends a murderer who he knows is guilty (he could have declined the case)...the medical doctor who knowingly promotes drugs that cause harm instead of heal, to pay for his million-$-house...Those are clear cases of unethical behavior because of greed. But the man who works for a minimum wage at McDonald's? His options are limited. Once his eyes are opened to the atrocities of the meat industry, his best option might be to work at Wal-Mart instead. But wait! Wal-Mart supports sweat shops. Yikes! What to do? Where can he work that doesn't support something negative at all?

    For me personally, I remember very clearly making a conscious decision to work towards financial independence, so that I no longer was beholden to any supervisor or corporation. It is against my principles to suppress my own convictions in order to please the supervisor and keep my job. So I elected to be self-employed. I no longer must answer to anyone in order to earn a living, and I can choose a livelihood that helps people, instead of hurting people.

    This didn't happen overnight. I wanted this for many years before it actually manifested. But the seeds were planted when I worked for that unethical company in that unethical industry. I didn't even like working for them at all, since I believe the educational system primarily teaches children to conform. (I homeschooled my son.) But there are a lot of things about society I don't like. We can't always just up and leave, unfortunately. That would be a disservice to our families who depend on us. But we can make decisions to work towards a way of life that is more in alignment with our principles.

    I spoke up at the time. I questioned and I challenged what was happening. My efforts were wasted. Had I persisted, I would have gotten fired, and my family would have suffered. Had such an action at least done some good, then I could say, maybe it was worth it, to support a bigger cause. But getting fired would not have done any good at all. None of those children would have been helped in the least, by my foolishness in trying to stop a train by standing on the tracks. The person standing on the tracks just gets splattered!

    Better to jump off the tracks, let the train go by, and then work behind the scenes to redirect that train, if possible.

    Or choose to fly on an airplane and avoid the train altogether.

    Sorry..something happened on that last post...so here we go again.

    But you are applying a couple of personal instances like a giant paintbrush, Monica. I don't know the answers...but I know enough that its not my place to judge anothers path. Or why they are in the situation that they are. Perhaps they have something to learn working there? Perhaps they have to come to decision to do something else with their lives..like you did? Would you deny them that experience and / or catalyst?

    If the existence of one (or more) STS corporate entity provides the catalyst for a few to awaken..is it a good thing? Or a bad thing?

    To each their own, I guess. I won't judge another by their choices in life. They probably made them for many reasons they are aware of...and for some they aren't aware of. As all of us do.

    Richard
    (06-22-2011, 12:07 PM)unity100 Wrote:
    (06-22-2011, 10:35 AM)Richard Wrote: I'm not defending any news org. I'm defending the people no one here knows who work there, raise their families, take care of their ailing parents and deal on a daily basis with same crap you and I do every day. The only thing is, they happen to work for an organization run by...people you've deemed less than savory?

    But "you" don't live their life. "You" can't see the pile of unpaid medical bills on thier kitchen table while they struggle with ailing parents or children. Or the prospect of a job loss that will cause them to lose thier home.

    There is no black and white here. We're wading up to out necks in grey and people are tossing off judgments like there in no tomorrow. Sometimes it seems..of late...the philosophy of the LOO has taken our humanity out of the equation.

    Richard

    excuse me, but we are not working on an organization that is founded and furthering of the interests of the few, to enslave the many.

    so then, having to take care of someone, is an excuse for doing as such, furthering dastardly deeds ?

    my my. with that logic, a lot of things can be justified.

    everyone is responsible with what they do. law of responsibility. there are no exceptions to it. you did, what you have done.

    Yes, yes...we are all well aware of the black and white world of absolutes that you inhabit Unity.

    Richard

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    Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-16-2011, 07:19 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-16-2011, 07:24 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-16-2011, 07:47 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by zenmaster - 06-16-2011, 09:17 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-16-2011, 08:02 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-16-2011, 09:25 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-16-2011, 09:58 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by AndresOr - 06-16-2011, 10:25 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-16-2011, 11:24 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-17-2011, 08:26 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by NegaNova - 06-18-2011, 03:09 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Raman - 06-16-2011, 10:23 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by βαθμιαίος - 06-16-2011, 10:43 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Raman - 06-16-2011, 10:48 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-17-2011, 12:12 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Nyu - 06-17-2011, 04:48 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by zack231 - 06-17-2011, 07:10 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-17-2011, 07:48 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-17-2011, 08:01 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-17-2011, 08:16 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Raman - 06-17-2011, 10:38 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-17-2011, 12:36 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-17-2011, 07:37 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by kycahi - 06-17-2011, 01:15 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by NegaNova - 06-17-2011, 06:55 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-18-2011, 01:02 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-18-2011, 03:40 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-18-2011, 04:12 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by NegaNova - 06-18-2011, 04:19 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-18-2011, 04:36 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-18-2011, 08:17 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-18-2011, 08:52 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-18-2011, 09:49 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-18-2011, 10:31 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-18-2011, 10:46 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-18-2011, 10:48 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-18-2011, 10:56 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-18-2011, 11:05 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-19-2011, 07:18 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-20-2011, 10:52 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-20-2011, 11:28 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-20-2011, 12:03 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-20-2011, 01:29 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-20-2011, 01:50 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-20-2011, 02:44 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-20-2011, 03:43 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-20-2011, 01:35 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-20-2011, 02:05 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-20-2011, 04:10 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-20-2011, 06:43 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-20-2011, 07:35 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by zenmaster - 06-20-2011, 08:24 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-20-2011, 09:20 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-20-2011, 09:28 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-21-2011, 03:20 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-21-2011, 10:46 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-21-2011, 11:17 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-21-2011, 04:15 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-21-2011, 05:09 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-21-2011, 07:25 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-21-2011, 04:18 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-21-2011, 04:33 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-21-2011, 04:38 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-21-2011, 04:45 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-21-2011, 04:56 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-21-2011, 06:58 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-21-2011, 07:29 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-21-2011, 07:50 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-21-2011, 08:10 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-21-2011, 09:46 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-21-2011, 10:20 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-22-2011, 10:35 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-22-2011, 12:07 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-22-2011, 02:29 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-22-2011, 02:50 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-22-2011, 04:26 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-22-2011, 05:45 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-22-2011, 06:27 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-22-2011, 06:41 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-22-2011, 07:14 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-22-2011, 10:56 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-22-2011, 12:16 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-22-2011, 12:23 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-22-2011, 03:51 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-22-2011, 04:11 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-22-2011, 05:20 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-22-2011, 06:53 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-22-2011, 06:30 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-22-2011, 06:50 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-22-2011, 06:57 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-22-2011, 07:01 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-22-2011, 07:09 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-22-2011, 09:53 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-22-2011, 07:09 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-22-2011, 07:25 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-22-2011, 07:58 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-22-2011, 08:38 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-22-2011, 09:37 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-22-2011, 10:03 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-22-2011, 09:44 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-22-2011, 10:04 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-22-2011, 10:10 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-22-2011, 10:27 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-22-2011, 10:39 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-23-2011, 09:07 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-22-2011, 10:46 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-22-2011, 10:52 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-22-2011, 10:58 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-22-2011, 11:09 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-22-2011, 11:20 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by zenmaster - 06-22-2011, 11:22 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-23-2011, 08:58 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by zenmaster - 06-23-2011, 09:04 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-22-2011, 11:24 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Bring4th_Austin - 06-22-2011, 11:28 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-22-2011, 11:32 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-23-2011, 07:43 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by zenmaster - 06-23-2011, 09:14 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-23-2011, 02:02 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-23-2011, 02:20 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-23-2011, 02:57 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-23-2011, 03:05 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-23-2011, 03:16 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-23-2011, 03:31 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-23-2011, 03:41 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-23-2011, 10:38 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-24-2011, 04:10 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-24-2011, 10:05 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Monica - 06-24-2011, 09:21 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by βαθμιαίος - 06-24-2011, 09:57 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-24-2011, 10:14 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Richard - 06-23-2011, 10:22 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by unity100 - 06-23-2011, 10:33 AM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-23-2011, 01:01 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by 3DMonkey - 06-23-2011, 01:15 PM
    RE: Fukusjima - by Oceania - 06-23-2011, 01:56 PM
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