07-02-2011, 06:56 PM
(07-02-2011, 02:16 PM)Azrael Wrote: To be fair, all of these points happened simultaneously and are happening simultaneously. So realistically, all of these concepts were of course already "developed" at the "beginning".
these only hold true while approaching infinity from infinite intelligence, or maybe even infinite intelligence from creator.
Quote:Nothing is above anything else in the universe, everything is connected to everything else and thus absolutely necessary.
first, there is no relevance in between 'being necessary', and above/below or before/after.
ra says, first, there was infinity. then, infinity become aware. this means, however you take it, infinite intelligence point is AFTER or BELOW infinity point. however you name it, it doesnt matter. it means, infinity encompasses infinite intelligence, and something else.
moreover, ra says that creation happens hierarchically. then it is apparent that if you go above the hierarchical spread-out that happens from creator to central suns, infinity precedes infinite intelligence and the source for it.
Quote:When I say the first density is the first developmental stage of consciousness I am simply refering to the fact that at the beginning of each octave consciousness, having been in singularity, once again begins to diversify itself in new patterns.
singularity before octaves is doubtful. there are infinite octaves, and even during an octave, entities from other octave can come and go as wanderers. therefore, concept of a singularity at a point where infinite octaves happen is questionable. for that to hold true, all octaves need to end all at the same point, and start all at the same point. else, when an octave returns to singularity, there will be other octaves in progress, and this will mean there isnt a singularity at that point.
Quote:I just imagine the beginning of an octave to be like God coming out of a heavy sleep, gradually cognizing its new existence.
if the word 'god' refers to 'the creator' or infinite intelligence at this point, that cannot pass valid.
infinite intelligence is above all octaves, and part of infinite number of octaves at the same time. in addition to their start, and their end. therefore, heavy sleep - cognitive sequence cannot be valid for it.
it can be valid for any part of infinite intelligence that is manifesting in an octave though - like us, here.