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    Thread: Science of Ascension


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    08-10-2011, 09:56 PM (This post was last modified: 08-10-2011, 10:02 PM by zenmaster.)
    (08-10-2011, 09:41 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Good point zen about just needing desire and will to polarize. So is there any benefit in working to polarize more? Would that put one in a better position when going into 4D?
    The benefit is accepting yourself and others 'more'. For 4D, more polarization means being able to appreciate more of the higher vibrations of 4D, 'keep walking the steps of light', so to speak. As Ra says, you stop at the 4D subdensity were you, yourself, vibrate in accordance. And as Ra says, there is little work with catalyst in 4D (only some initial part of the density where SMC is formed (a million years)). 4D is an etiolated realm for catalyst. You can polarize 100 times faster here.



    (08-10-2011, 09:47 PM)3DMonkey Wrote:
    (08-10-2011, 09:26 PM)zenmaster Wrote:
    (08-10-2011, 09:07 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: I can't seem to apply my will with great effect. Sure we could look at my life and say 'that's where your will is being applied. It's obvious.' .... But I take from Ocean's input that she would prefer to apply her will in an unrestricted way that we just aren't able to. I think "laziness" is not the inhibitor. I think that there are many ways that each individual experiences inhibited will power, and the source is not able to be changed.
    I guarantee you that if one actually applies their will in some manner, regardless of focus, then there would be a result and progress made. If one has their survival needs addressed, I'm not sure where the unchangeable source of inhibition would be. Assagioli did great things as a prisoner. To be clear, you don't have to do anything to polarize besides have desire and will. Everyone has a choice to go to sleep instead. However, the life-plan may eventually make the catalyst louder and louder where one must again wakeup and address that which can no longer be ignored.

    Originally, I was moving past "polarization" in my thinking.
    I'm not familiar with assagioli.

    I think we are applying the will all the time. That's why I say we just keep on keeping on. If I could choose to sleep, I definitely would. I don't think this is an available choice. Some of us may seek prison as a means to express the type of will we are happier to express. Some of us will break our arm to get attention from mommy.

    (forum time out...)
    As far as I know, Assagioli was the first individual to use the term 'Higher Self' in a holistic model which includes the current sphere of consciousness (ego). If the breaking arm to get attention from mommy results in use of the will, then that's processed catalyst. Any condition where catalyst is not ignored and honesty is applied, will result in polarization. We can compartmentalize what beckons, but that is tantamount to dishonesty and sleep.

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    Science of Ascension - by BrownEye - 07-29-2011, 01:21 AM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by BrownEye - 08-02-2011, 10:56 AM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by Kiko - 08-02-2011, 11:12 AM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by BrownEye - 08-02-2011, 11:36 AM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by Kiko - 08-02-2011, 01:09 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by Oceania - 08-02-2011, 11:51 AM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by BrownEye - 08-02-2011, 01:31 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by Kiko - 08-02-2011, 02:46 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by 3DMonkey - 08-02-2011, 03:13 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by Kiko - 08-02-2011, 05:49 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by 3DMonkey - 08-02-2011, 05:57 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by Kiko - 08-02-2011, 06:31 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by 3DMonkey - 08-02-2011, 09:13 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by Kiko - 08-02-2011, 09:48 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by Kiko - 08-05-2011, 02:59 AM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by zenmaster - 08-06-2011, 10:57 AM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by Kiko - 08-06-2011, 01:43 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by BrownEye - 08-02-2011, 03:28 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by Kiko - 08-02-2011, 04:22 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by BrownEye - 08-02-2011, 05:14 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by BrownEye - 08-02-2011, 08:22 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by 3DMonkey - 08-03-2011, 12:36 AM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by Kiko - 08-03-2011, 06:09 AM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by 3DMonkey - 08-03-2011, 08:58 AM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by Kiko - 08-03-2011, 09:24 AM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by 3DMonkey - 08-03-2011, 10:00 AM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by zenmaster - 08-06-2011, 02:19 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by Kiko - 08-06-2011, 03:48 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by drifting pages - 08-06-2011, 03:36 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by zenmaster - 08-06-2011, 04:01 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by drifting pages - 08-06-2011, 04:08 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by BrownEye - 08-06-2011, 04:32 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by 3DMonkey - 08-06-2011, 06:20 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by Kiko - 08-06-2011, 06:27 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by Oceania - 08-07-2011, 01:43 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by 3DMonkey - 08-07-2011, 01:51 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by Richard - 08-08-2011, 05:25 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by Confused - 08-08-2011, 05:34 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by Oceania - 08-07-2011, 02:00 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by Oceania - 08-09-2011, 10:42 AM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by Confused - 08-09-2011, 04:25 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by charlie2012 - 08-09-2011, 05:15 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by Oceania - 08-09-2011, 05:07 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by Confused - 08-09-2011, 05:39 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by Oceania - 08-09-2011, 05:21 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by charlie2012 - 08-09-2011, 05:31 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by Oceania - 08-09-2011, 05:35 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by zenmaster - 08-09-2011, 10:29 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by 3DMonkey - 08-10-2011, 12:16 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by Kiko - 08-10-2011, 12:50 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by zenmaster - 08-10-2011, 08:49 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by zenmaster - 08-10-2011, 08:39 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by 3DMonkey - 08-10-2011, 08:46 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by charlie2012 - 08-09-2011, 05:49 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by Oceania - 08-09-2011, 05:55 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by charlie2012 - 08-09-2011, 06:12 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by Confused - 08-09-2011, 06:18 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by 3DMonkey - 08-09-2011, 09:29 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by Confused - 08-09-2011, 06:00 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by Oceania - 08-09-2011, 06:05 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by Oceania - 08-09-2011, 06:41 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by charlie2012 - 08-10-2011, 04:17 AM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by AnthroHeart - 08-10-2011, 10:03 AM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by 3DMonkey - 08-10-2011, 01:05 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by Kiko - 08-10-2011, 01:43 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by 3DMonkey - 08-10-2011, 09:07 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by zenmaster - 08-10-2011, 09:26 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by 3DMonkey - 08-10-2011, 09:47 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by AnthroHeart - 08-10-2011, 09:41 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by zenmaster - 08-10-2011, 09:56 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by BrownEye - 08-10-2011, 10:23 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by AnthroHeart - 08-10-2011, 11:38 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by zenmaster - 08-10-2011, 11:58 PM
    RE: Science of Ascension - by 3DMonkey - 08-11-2011, 01:00 PM

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