08-15-2011, 10:19 PM
(08-15-2011, 09:29 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(08-15-2011, 09:23 PM)3DMonkey Wrote:The veil limits access to the conscious aspects of prior incarnations and limits conscious access to deeper mind in general. The portion of deeper mind is one way we access the higher self in a conscious manner.(08-15-2011, 09:20 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(08-15-2011, 09:13 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: If, having no veil, we have full access to the unconscious (I'm assuming the full unconscious of the Total Self, the Self that has achieved 1D thru 6D) then this access would be never changing. No?No. The veil limits access to what has been created up to the point of the veiling.
So, you are saying that not only does the veil draw a line between conscious and unconscious in this incarnation, but it draws a line in my eternal existence- preventing me from access to my Higher Self even in time/space?
What I mean by "same place" is the place where we exist without the veil. If there is such a place, why would anyone choose to enter into a place with the veil under the guise that the veil somehow facilitates our journey to the place where there is no veil? It doesn't seem like a conscious decision anyone would make without being forced to do it.
(08-15-2011, 09:53 PM)Ankh Wrote:(08-15-2011, 09:38 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: The veil is nothing more than a limiting factor to the human condition.
Hmm... I would say that the veil is the teacher. It is there to teach us something about ourselves, or what Ra would call - our mystery-clad Being. And is the one of the many meanings of life.
My perspective from your angle is that it is a Hump to climb over. Only, in our state, the hump never ends... like a warped rug that you can't ever seem to get the lumps out of no matter how hard you try.