So, what does penetrating the veil truly entail?

[3DMonkey]

As for using the archetypal symbols- We can use one or two at a time, the ones we like to use. Nobody is capable of applying them in unison...

By archetypal symbols, I was not referring to those directly from the tarot (and the study suggested by Ra). I was talking about something higher up - our personal and collective symbol set, as we understand from dreams and language.

Hmmmm. Okay (I have no direct disagreement. I need to educate myself on that point). Perhaps sometime you could explain to me how these are applicable to the individual without knowing where to relate them structurally... like the tarot, as one example

No. It's not important in the sense that I have a desire to be recognized. But in any idea anyone has about the ideal societal existence, it should be noted that this is a major, un-breach-able stumbling block.

It's definitely more unbreachable if the lower-vibrational catalyst is still being sought. If you don't know who you are yet, you aren't going to cooperate or harmonize very well. And at best, only for short, circumstantial periods.

I don't see any difference from the absent minded to the highly aware. I really don't. The only difference is the method of aggression when things between them turn sour, i.e. fist punches or economical/social manipulation, or psychological passive aggressiveness.

I think the best example of harmony is between those who are all highly delusional unto themselves.

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(perhaps, in this instance about society, I am being too idealistic. I've never witness two people agree on everything. Nor have I ever witnessed anyone above lower-vibrational catalyst. These two things are ideal indeed)