So, what does penetrating the veil truly entail?

[3DMonkey]

Think you got the @'s switched. There are different aspects of one reality (e.g. physical, empirical, emotional, mental, historical, symbolic, mythical, ethical, spiritual, etc). Each aspect has its own limitations, context and practicality. Oftentimes (especially on these forums) we erroneously attempt to over extend one aspect at the expense of another or we may confuse one aspect with another, but each can have its own, very real, viability. Each aspect can bridge and support another - i.e. mental and philosophical, philosophical and physical or philosophical and ethical, or emotional and physical, or mythical and spiritual.

But it is important to understand the physical is by no means a primary reality (it may only seem so due to our constant dependency on that aspect due to survival concerns). So when we say that something doesn't exist 'there', what are we really saying? We are trying to distinguish between these aspects and within one aspect in order that their utility can be recognized.

haha, no, I directed my @'s appropriately

I think it would benefit you and I to use our understandings toward a specific scenario in order to understand exactly what we are saying. We are dancing together with broad hypotheticals that are sending us in circles with this discussion.

What I see and can't quite articulate is like looking into a mirror of a mirror. I can comprehend it in my mind, but I can't relay it with text, or words. The archetypal structure, the basis for our understanding of life, is always applied. Allow me this post to refer to that structure as the major arcana tarot 'deck'. I can see the deck applied to the deck of the deck of the deck of the deck of the deck.

For instance, in your paragraph
"But it is important to understand the physical is by no means a primary reality (it may only seem so due to our constant dependency on that aspect due to survival concerns). So when we say that something doesn't exist 'there', what are we really saying? We are trying to distinguish between these aspects and within one aspect in order that their utility can be recognized. "

This sentence "(it may only seem so due to our constant dependency on that aspect due to survival concerns)" is a concern derived directly from the only way one can formulate thought- the archetypal mind. And the application doesn't stop there, it keeps going like the mirror of a mirror.

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There is not an actual crown chakra. Applying the concept has an actual effect thus making it real. You will never find the crown chakra. It doesn't exist outside the conceptual persona that makes up what you are now.

The Council of Saturn isn't actually there, on the planet Saturn, or the rings of Saturn. It is a concept pertaining to the reality that the what-you-are envisions for itself.

What about Ra? Does Ra actually exist?

Ra is real. No doubt about it.

Do I personally believe Ra is a single unit of multiple entities formed into some kind of invisible ball of light that tele-communicated through a human to give us a message from beyond? No, I don't, but that isn't important to my validity or to the LOO. ... We don't need to accept Ra in that specified way, do we?