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    08-19-2011, 12:28 PM (This post was last modified: 08-19-2011, 12:45 PM by Tenet Nosce.)
    (08-18-2011, 08:04 PM)zenmaster Wrote: Look, Q'uo is the 'transpersonal Carla' (higher vibrational) with basically the same personality and 3D limitations, the same 3D growth of understanding and reliance on new personal and cultural information to provide answers.

    http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/1990/1990_0107.aspx


    Q'uo Wrote:I am Q’uo. I am two social memory complexes, the one you know of as Ra, and the one you know of as Latwii.

    We have combined because this instrument[1] constantly asks for the highest and best contact it may stably carry. The energies of the one known as Ra, which is a social memory complex of sixth density, is an energy band narrow enough that it requires the locking in, and therefore the unconscious state, of the mind of the channel. The entities of Ra were appalled to see the toll it took upon this instrument to bring forth that which it did channel. It was not expected that there would be so much interest from what this instrument calls the loyal opposition.

    When our energies are stepped down to those of Latwii, an energy this instrument feels most comfortable with, we are able to offer concepts that are to some degree more precise, and may we say, perhaps more interesting to the advanced student of metaphysics, than that which is called Latwii would be by the self, for Latwii is of the fifth density, the density of wisdom, and as you can feel, our vibrations are the vibrations not only of unconditional wisdom, but compassion as well.

    Thus, we are composite, and as this instrument has often suspected, our name is a pun, a quibble; not a joke, but merely an identification which was clear. We are the I AM, and you too are the I AM, and all that is in creation is the I AM. We chose a language this instrument knew, and used the word meaning “who,” or “which.” It was designed to make the instrument ponder this very point, and we are delighted (in the) results so far, for we of Latwii have been able, with the help of our teachers, those of Ra, to offer information in a way which is clearer and more compassionate, perhaps, than we of Latwii, in and of our own social memory complex, could accomplish. We find that our senses of humor are not at all the same, and so we have attempted to give up our sense of humor, that the higher sense of humor or wisdom informed by compassion may do its subtle work in these meditations.

    I like where it says that "The entities of Ra were appalled [to fill with horror; shock or dismay. Literally, to become pale] to see the toll it took upon this instrument to bring forth that which it did channel." Appalled. Interesting choice of words. This also underscores the idea that Ra makes (has been making, still does make) mistakes. So, being 6D does not preclude one from getting caught up in unforeseen consequences. Of course, Ra themselves never proclaim to be more than "humble messengers".

    Getting back to angels, Q'uo also says that, for the most part, angels do not incarnate in physical bodies. According to my understanding, this gives humans the "one up" in the situation. Angels are just disembodied entities with no potential for growth or evolution.

    So what does this mean for the human entity that is continuing to grow and evolve? I think it means that angels (and demons) become increasingly viewed as a projection of the subconscious. Angels are like "training wheels" and meant to be discarded once a human being can control their vehicle without external assistance. To keep the training wheels on the vehicle would only serve to slow it down and limit its navigational ability.

    There is nothing "wrong" with training wheels, yet it still looks absurd for a grown adult to be using them when they are no longer necessary. Then, to start naming one's training wheels, having regular conversations with them, and refusing to make a choice until consulting one's training wheels... well I guess that's good for a belly laugh but I am not sure what the purpose would be.

    According to my read of that Q'uo session on angels, they are nothing more than transformers stepping down love and light energy at every possible level of existence, in order to maintain balance while other entities choose to live under the veil.

    Thus, penetrating through the veil entails seeing angels (and demons) for who they really are. This is where things get interesting.

    Now it would appear to me, that there are two general directions to go from here: STO and STS.

    Taking an STO attitude toward angels requires asking oneself "How can I be of service to the angels?"

    Taking an STS attitude toward angels requires asking oneself "How can the angels be of service to me?"

    I think I will just pause there to get some feedback before proceeding...
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