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    08-21-2011, 12:39 PM
    (08-19-2011, 12:28 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: Taking an STO attitude toward angels requires asking oneself "How can I be of service to the angels?"

    Taking an STS attitude toward angels requires asking oneself "How can the angels be of service to me?"

    This is a very interesting question to ponder because I arrive at different answers depending on whom I consider to be the more powerful entity in a human-angel interaction.

    Q'uo says the angels provide love and light energy to those who ask. [As I stated earlier, I conceive a feeling of safety to be a manifestation of light energy. Arguable, but I am going to stick with it.] Now in the most simple sense, the love/light is asked for by the human, offered by the angel, and received by the human. Free-will exchange. Everybody is happy. Both are served. Done deal.

    Please understand, I am not saying there is anything "wrong" with this, or that I believe people "should" stop doing it. I am only pointing out that it is sort of a one-way exchange. We say that giving thanks in return is enough for the angels, and I'm sure it is. But at the end of the day, the human got what they wanted, and the angel was simply doing their job. Nobody was really thinking too much about, "How can I be of service to the angels?"

    When I think about being of service to the angels, I am not satisfied with the standard line about letting them "do their jobs" and being thankful. If some entity's sole purpose in life is to serve me, then my natural instinct is to release them from service. Let them go. Either to free up more energy for them to serve others, or to return to the Source, as they choose. What do they really have to offer me that I don't already possess?

    I can see where angels are useful when one has experienced severe trauma or disappointment, and just needs some extra support for a little while while they recover. But in today's world, I see people calling on the angels for every little trivial thing. Recently, there was another thread started on slavery... I imagine that, when the veil gets removed, some people are/will be surprised to find droves of nonphysical slaves that they had been dragging around with them throughout life, mostly oblivious. Angels, demons, spirit guides, ghosts of dead relatives and pets, and who knows what else. A whole entourage dragging them down.

    Now some might get upset or claim that they are not "dragged down" but "lifted up" by all these interactions. Certainly I am in no place to judge that for another. However, I have observed many people who spend a lot of time and energy communicating with otherworldly beings to be consistently lacking in at least one of three areas: health, personal finances, and their significant other (if one exists at all). This has always been very curious to me, and I have yet to find a satisfactory explanation.

    The essential thing I am attempting to get at here with respect to "penetrating the veil" is seeing others for who they really are. This includes discarnate and other nonphysical entities. Just like when a child grows up and (hopefully) realizes that their parents are not superhumans, but simply two people trying to do the best that they can. So does the spiritual adult realize that all of these nonphysical beings are really not that much different than anybody else. They all have their own unique light to share, and as well have their own foibles and shortcomings. They also have their own unique destiny.

    Point being, as we continue to grow, it seems that we will outpace certain other entities. And the time will come when we will turn to those who helped us realize our own destinies, and help them to realize their own. In that respect, it's never too early to start in my opinion.





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    So, what does penetrating the veil truly entail? - by godwide_void - 08-10-2011, 12:05 PM
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