(08-28-2009, 02:16 PM)airwaves Wrote: Don, Carla, and Jim probably already believed in reincarnation, therefor, there was no infringement on free will. I doubt the dude channeling Oahspe 200 odd years ago believed in reincarnation. Discounting the good folks over in asia, it is more of a new age thingy. That is generally the "rule of thumb" when deciding what information to give and what to withhold.
(08-28-2009, 04:15 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Well said! Such a simple explanation.
Hello dear Airwaves. Good to see you my friend. Actually this is a difficult argument to follow as much as is the logic. I'm not at all sure that it is at all simple Monica. Would that it were....
"The wheels of the bus go round and round": Don asked many things. Ra spoke of many things.
Firstly:Many of the things Don asked were on many things Don was already aware of or knew for himself with certainty, which however Ra refused to answer, this based entirely to the converse of your argument of it not infringing on Don's free will or prior belief. Answering what Don asked or had prior knowledge of or believed would not have infringed on Don's Free Will.
Secondly: Don moreover (IMHO) was never the point as much as was the intended audience, this in the same manner that the author of the "Ohaspe" was never the intended audience as much as was the audience it was intended for. Two thousand pages of a book called the Ohaspe would have been a monster of an intent for a book designed for one single man, as much as the Law of One would be assumed to be intended for just one man, i.e. Don et al, this notwithstanding the fact that Ra left it open for the L/L group to publish or not. Surely Ra had the inkling the L/L "might" publish, and that the information might be disseminated to the public, which may have been nothing more than an unspoken hope of the Confederation to begin with as much as was the intent for the Ohaspe to be for a wider audience more than one, even if but just one single soul were saved in the process.
To the converse again, it would be natural to assume that there were far many more things Don did not know, or perhaps did not believe, or was not even remotely intuitively aware of, but that Ra did speak to nonetheless, i.e the entire concept of STO vs STS which is an entire antithesis of the Christian concept of "good people go to heaven - bad people go to hell".
So we have: (a) Don was not aware of many things, nor did he possibly believe vs disbelieve in these many things, many he further knew nothing of, yet Ra spoke to these things in any event (b) Don spoke to things which Don certainly knew of, or was intuitively aware of, or even absolutely knew with certainty of, which Ra refused to answer irrespectively.
Ra spoke to things Don knew nothing of, or even at first disbelieved in, yet answers and information were given, verses Ra refused to speak of things Don in fact did know of, or intuitively was aware of.
I believe it safe to suggest that there is no mechanism in the LOO as simple as might seem at first brush. Nothing. I also believe it safe to say in this case that there is certainly another mechanism involved than is the mere "infringement of free will" principle.
The principle of Reincarnation is a principle as old as Methuselah. It was with certainty a principle known of in this time, as was clearly demonstrated by the fact that it was denied as a principle of truth. Why deny a truth better left unspoken if it is a truth, as opposed to misrepresent the truth. Better to have left it open or unspoken if not untouched. Ohaspe was not a question/answer session. To pursue the logic one step further in closing, it can hardly be assumed that reincarnation would be considered as anathema to speak of as an infringement of free will, yet even wildly assume that the rest of the information in Ohaspe was less than an infringement in the same breath (one would have to read it to understand this statement) and yet assume that the principle of STO vs STS, which prior to the LOO was never spoken of before, is altogether quite alright. This simple bit of information radically changes Judeo-Christain-Islamic principles forever, i.e. most of the known world. Clearly there are other mechanisms involved here which alas may remain forever a mystery and for which "infringement of free will" may sometimes certainly apply, but for which at other times simply can not apply.
Its a sticky mess, this 3D in convolution....as opposed to evolution. Be sure to look for my book appearing in a book store soon in a neighborhood near you: "Evolution through Convolution" :idea:
Q